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Do Aliens Exist?

Yes 66 65.35%
 
Maybe 26 25.74%
 
No 9 8.91%
 
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lol @ people who said no. The universe is huge and there is bound to be something out there.



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If it's so likely that there's life on other planets, then why did life only happen once on our planet?

If the conditions for life here are so great, why did life only started precisely once in 6 billion years?



bimmylee said:
NKAJ said:
bimmylee said:
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bimmylee said:
NKAJ said:
bimmylee said:
FootballFan said:
bimmylee said:
You show me the aliens. Then I'll believe.


You show me God then i'll believe you.

Aliens would exist within the universe. God would exist without.

Big difference.


they are both things which we have no scientific  evidence for.why believe in one but not the other?

No one who believes in God does so because of scientific evidence. The existence of aliens, however, could be proven.


Intresting answer.So your saying God can never be proven?Or that we just cant prove his existance yet?

Science is only useful for proving or disproving the existence of things that would lie within our universe, such as aliens. Thus, science will never prove or disprove the existence of God, because God would exist beyond the reach of science.


hmmm....good answer.Can i ask though,who says that god doesnt lie within this universe? I mean do you personally think that god doesnt lie in this universe or have you read it from somewhere?

In order to create the universe, God must have existed before He created it, yes? This would mean that God is not a part of our universe, but instead a separate entity altogether. Of course, the laws of physics therefore wouldn't apply to God, so He could exist wherever He wants, even in multiple places at the same time (kinda hard to wrap my mind around such a concept)... anything is possible.

To answer your question specifically, I've read several explanations as to exactly "where God exists", and the above one is generally what makes the most sense to me. It's a difficult thing for me to grasp, as you might imagine.

Good answer but i still think that everyone makes their own god in a way.Some say he exists here in human form others say he exists there but we can never comprehend him ...people have their personal gods i guess.



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NKAJ said:

Good answer but i still think that everyone makes their own god in a way.Some say he exists here in human form others say he exists there but we can never comprehend him ...people have their personal gods i guess.

It's very true that many people create their own gods to worship. It's also true that finite man would never be able to fully comprehend an infinite, all-powerful God. But does that necessarily make Him unknowable? I wouldn't say so.

Sounds to me that you do acknowledge the possibility of there being a single, infinite God, correct?



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bimmylee said:
NKAJ said:

Good answer but i still think that everyone makes their own god in a way.Some say he exists here in human form others say he exists there but we can never comprehend him ...people have their personal gods i guess.

It's very true that many people create their own gods to worship. It's also true that finite man would never be able to fully comprehend an infinite, all-powerful God. But does that necessarily make Him unknowable? I wouldn't say so.

Sounds to me that you do acknowledge the possibility of there being a single, infinite God, correct?


Hmmm...I dont think there is a god but i cant rule it out either.So yes i guess i accept the posibiltiy.I m kinda agnostic/athiest in that sense.



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Of course we don't. Silly humans, you're all alone...



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It would be like thinking that the only life in the ocean is the life living near the shore. And then not having the means to go further than a few feet.

We don't know. We can't prove there is life but we can't prove otherwise.

There are scientists and such trying to answer this question. I don't think VGChartz is going to give us definite proof.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if Highwaystar posts a link to a site with indisputable proof. He does that kind of stuff all the time.

LOL

@Footballfan: I don't get it, are implying that I never do that or that I always do that?

@D21Lewis: I posted the Drake equation earlier and the Universe is certainly large enough to accommodate the Drake equation to the point of life forming (we will ignore the point from intelligent life onwards).

I know that it is nowhere near proof, but I think it does indicate that there is an extremely high chance that extra terrestrial life exists. Does it count?

In fact, Frank Drake himself predicted that there are possibly 10,000 extra terrestrial civilisations within the Milky way who we could communicate with (Source).

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Apart from me

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Slimebeast said:
If it's so likely that there's life on other planets, then why did life only happen once on our planet?

If the conditions for life here are so great, why did life only started precisely once in 6 billion years?

Life regularly recycles organic compounds, so any other 'formations' of organic molecules would quickly be consumed by existing life.

Still, it appears that other forms of life did form.  Mitochondria have their own DNA, and it is widely believed that they once lived on their own, but the cell as we know it today consumed the mitochondria and uses it for its own purposes.  Just read up on the Endosymbiotic theory.  Also, there are 'different life' theories on the origin of viruses.



bimmylee said:

In order to create the universe, God must have existed before He created it, yes? This would mean that God is not a part of our universe, but instead a separate entity altogether. Of course, the laws of physics therefore wouldn't apply to God, so He could exist wherever He wants, even in multiple places at the same time (kinda hard to wrap my mind around such a concept)... anything is possible.

To answer your question specifically, I've read several explanations as to exactly "where God exists", and the above one is generally what makes the most sense to me. It's a difficult thing for me to grasp, as you might imagine.

Thats a big assumption. 

How do you know what existed before the universe, or what exists outside this universe, or that interacting universes don't have to follow the physical laws of the other?  Is God limited by the laws in his own universe?



ManusJustus said:
bimmylee said:

In order to create the universe, God must have existed before He created it, yes? This would mean that God is not a part of our universe, but instead a separate entity altogether. Of course, the laws of physics therefore wouldn't apply to God, so He could exist wherever He wants, even in multiple places at the same time (kinda hard to wrap my mind around such a concept)... anything is possible.

To answer your question specifically, I've read several explanations as to exactly "where God exists", and the above one is generally what makes the most sense to me. It's a difficult thing for me to grasp, as you might imagine.

Thats a big assumption. 

How do you know what existed before the universe, or what exists outside this universe, or that interacting universes don't have to follow the physical laws of the other?  Is God limited by the laws in his own universe?

Who says God is in any universe? Who says there are other universes? I hate to answer questions with questions, but you seem to be making a few assumptions yourself. I will readily admit that much of this is beyond my understanding. My point simply is that the Creator is not a physical part of the created.



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