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Sarah Palin vs Obama if eletions where today

Obama 41 53.25%
 
Sarah palin 16 20.78%
 
Dead fish 20 25.97%
 
Total:77
highwaystar101 said:
Dead fish was tempting, leagues above Sarah Palin anyway. However, I'm going for Obama as he has that human touch.

I agree, I like zee human touch.



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Wouldn't someone like Ron Paul be the logical choice to run for the Republicans? Especially over Sarah Palin.



Kasz216 said:
draik said:
I just don't get it, could any of you from the USA explain this to me.

Why is Sarah Palin popular and even considered as a candidate for the presidency. Aren't there better alternatives to her in the republican party? Surely there are some more qualified people in the party? Or is it the Hockey mum thing?

She's viewed as a raving loony here by many.

She's a successful female poltician that isn't cast as "frigid and angry" as most female polticians are.

Furthermore, she doesn't give off the general bland "Everyday politican" type thing you see with people like John Kerry, Mitt Romney etc.

 

Basically, she has Charisma.  Look at our last few presidents during their elections.

 

Obama - He's an "everman" guy... loves basketball... has a personality.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game.

Bush - "Everyman type guy."... "cowboy type image."... "liked to make jokes.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game.  Just so long as he dosen't start asking you if you've found Jesus.

Bill Clinton - He's an "everyman" type guy.  Can play the Sax!  Good sense of humor.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game... and talk about the cheer leaders.

Bush Sr - Ok... you wouldn't want to have a beer with him, but he was Vice President... and he was running against Michael Dukakis who was even more awkward.

Reagan - An actor!  Yet still humble!  You'd totally want to have a bear with him and hang out.

 

What does having a bear with Reagan involve? It sounds scary =P



Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
draik said:
I just don't get it, could any of you from the USA explain this to me.

Why is Sarah Palin popular and even considered as a candidate for the presidency. Aren't there better alternatives to her in the republican party? Surely there are some more qualified people in the party? Or is it the Hockey mum thing?

She's viewed as a raving loony here by many.

She's a successful female poltician that isn't cast as "frigid and angry" as most female polticians are.

Furthermore, she doesn't give off the general bland "Everyday politican" type thing you see with people like John Kerry, Mitt Romney etc.

 

Basically, she has Charisma.  Look at our last few presidents during their elections.

 

Obama - He's an "everman" guy... loves basketball... has a personality.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game.

Bush - "Everyman type guy."... "cowboy type image."... "liked to make jokes.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game.  Just so long as he dosen't start asking you if you've found Jesus.

Bill Clinton - He's an "everyman" type guy.  Can play the Sax!  Good sense of humor.  You'd like to have a beer with him and watch a game... and talk about the cheer leaders.

Bush Sr - Ok... you wouldn't want to have a beer with him, but he was Vice President... and he was running against Michael Dukakis who was even more awkward.

Reagan - An actor!  Yet still humble!  You'd totally want to have a bear with him and hang out.

 

What does having a bear with Reagan involve? It sounds scary =P

Off topic, but made me think of this.



 

highwaystar101 said:
Wouldn't someone like Ron Paul be the logical choice to run for the Republicans? Especially over Sarah Palin.

He would... if it wasn't for the fact that most Republicans hate Ron Paul more then Obama.

The thing is... when you become President, you don't just become president.  You become head of the party.  That means if Ron Paul won the election.. he and his Librertarians would suddenly control the RNC.

Neo-consrevatives would rather lose and ride it out and wait for the storm to pass then let Ron Paul in office.  



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Ironically by the way... Obama may be best if this election is held now.

By the time 2012 is around he may be ineligible to run in a number of states.

A decent amount of states are including a provision that would require someone to show their birth certificate to run in that state... and really... all it would take is 1 state to have that law.



Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Wouldn't someone like Ron Paul be the logical choice to run for the Republicans? Especially over Sarah Palin.

He would... if it wasn't for the fact that most Republicans hate Ron Paul more then Obama.

The thing is... when you become President, you don't just become president.  You become head of the party.  That means if Ron Paul won the election.. he and his Librertarians would suddenly control the RNC.

Neo-consrevatives would rather lose and ride it out and wait for the storm to pass then let Ron Paul in office.  

Yeah, I've heard they don't like him for pretty much the reasons you gave (Libertarian). It's a shame because quite frankly he seems miles better than Sarah Palin.



Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Wouldn't someone like Ron Paul be the logical choice to run for the Republicans? Especially over Sarah Palin.

He would... if it wasn't for the fact that most Republicans hate Ron Paul more then Obama.

The thing is... when you become President, you don't just become president.  You become head of the party.  That means if Ron Paul won the election.. he and his Librertarians would suddenly control the RNC.

Neo-consrevatives would rather lose and ride it out and wait for the storm to pass then let Ron Paul in office.  

True. Ron Paul is too liberal on social issues to be accepted by the majority of Republicans.



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highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Wouldn't someone like Ron Paul be the logical choice to run for the Republicans? Especially over Sarah Palin.

He would... if it wasn't for the fact that most Republicans hate Ron Paul more then Obama.

The thing is... when you become President, you don't just become president.  You become head of the party.  That means if Ron Paul won the election.. he and his Librertarians would suddenly control the RNC.

Neo-consrevatives would rather lose and ride it out and wait for the storm to pass then let Ron Paul in office.  

Yeah, I've heard they don't like him for pretty much the reasons you gave (Libertarian). It's a shame because quite frankly he seems miles better than Sarah Palin.

Yeah, people just couldn't stomach his social issues... and just how radically he'd try and change everything.

 

Ron Paul supporters are basically your typical fiscally conservative, socially liberal types.  Like Economists, Proffesors of buisness and financial classes, small buisness owners. 

Largely people who know about economics but find it repugnent that the government can tell gay people they can't get married etc.

 

I'm not sold on the "fair tax" system, however most Economists seem to be... so long as it's done on a point of sale AND buisness level and also keeps sin taxes.