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The UK 2010 Election Thread- Who will/would get your vote?

Conservative - David Cameron 19 32.20%
 
Labour - Gordon Brown 11 18.64%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 22 37.29%
 
Other Party (Green/UKIP/Etc) 5 8.47%
 
Undecided 2 3.39%
 
Total:59
Slimebeast said:
If I was a British citizen I'd vote for the BNP. I love the UK.

If the BNP ever get in, then I'm leaving the country.

If that happens, can I come and live in Sweden Slimebeast?



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Kantor said:
FootballFan said:

FIRSTLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I DONT AGREE WITH ANY OF THE VIEWS OF THIS PARTY. I JUST THINK IT IS "RIGHT" TO INCLUDE THEM AS THEY ARE A POLITICAL PARTY WITHIN THE UK.

 

No, thanks. I'd rather not be conversing with somebody who, knowing the facts about them, would still support that racist joke of a party. Not you, of course.


Frankly speeking this party should never win in an election. So this is what the world is turnning into. Hey i didn't know the teaparty went to Great Britain.!



SamuelRSmith said:
Kantor said:
Kasz216 said:
I would probably vote Liberal Democrats. I feel like the Authortarian levels of Britain are at a scary high level.

I mean stuff we complain about in the patriot act is stuff that happens in the UK all the time.

Conservative is a close second though based on the "Key issues" i've read between the two so far. I'll keep you up to date on my "non" vote.


Also, what's up with the health care saying "It's for the people who need it not who can pay."?

I mean, you guys have universal healthcare. Is there some rampant discrimination against the poor? I mean, I know if your poor your MUCH more likely to die of random diseases in the UK but I thought that was just due to the fact that the poor usually have a worse lifestyle.

It's the Liberal Democrats' and Conservatives' job to complain about what Labour are doing. And Gordon Brown has a newfound obsession with agreeing with everything the Lib Dems say.

Having said that, people being denied treatment which they need due to lack of funds is quite a serious problem within the NHS, and one which all of the parties promise to tackle (of course, one of them has had 13 years to do so, which Clegg and Cameron point out every ten minutes).

To be fair on Labour, they have over trebled the budget of the NHS since they've got into power. Really, if tripling the budget of something doesn't solve the problem, I don't think there's much that can be done under the current ways of doing things.

Instead of the NHS, we should have forced HSAs coupled with optional "emergency" insurance (only for the rarest, and most costly of health issues) and have all services provided by the private sector. That way, everybody would get the drugs they always want, because they can decide what their money is spent on, rather than the Government, or a Trust.

This system has proven to be very successful in other countries, in both reducing the costs and increasing the quality of healthcare.

Unfortunately, this country seems to have some sort of love-in with the NHS, and none of the parties would ever propose anything like the above, for fear of political suicide. However, the NHS really is unsustainable, going by the crude measure of past trends and extrapolating them into the future, we can predict that by 2027, if nothing else changes, the NHS will cost roughly 22% of GDP - almost 1 in every 4 pounds, it's currently at around 10%.

I blame overpopulation, rising levels of obesity and Wii Fit



I'm hoping that the "Wii Fit" indicated that the whole post was a joke, FootballFan.



Kantor said:
Machina said:
Conservative.


There, I replied. I get a cookie now?

The Conservatives let you keep your cookie, then give you some cookie crumbs out of their pocket.

Labour gives half of your cookie to homeless people.

The Lib Dems take your cookie, crush it into little pieces and throw it out of a window, and buy you a muffin instead.

The Green Party recycles your cookie.

UKIP tells you to leave your cookie, because it's controlling you.

The BNP tells the cookie to go back to Cookieland.

good analogy. but i haft to ask, is a muffin better then a cookie?

side post (cause i like muffins but i preferre cupcakes)



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highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
If I was a British citizen I'd vote for the BNP. I love the UK.

If the BNP ever get in, then I'm leaving the country.

If that happens, can I come and live in Sweden Slimebeast?

Haha, absolutely. You're most welcome.



Kasz216 said:
FootballFan said:


Wouldn't it just make the drugs into a tabacco situation? As far as I'm aware despite large taxes on those there isn't a black market. Alcohol is also smashed a long with petrol, seems like an easy way to generate funds.

Apparently 27% of Ciggarretes and 68% of do it yourself tobacco are bought on the Black Market.  (In the UK.)

Additionally there really aren't too many tobacco plantations in third world countries... unlike these drugs which are everywhere... so less people trying to smuggle.

Additionally, Cigarrettes require a lot more manufacturing then other drugs as people are used to the Cigarette method rather then other drugs which are needle and pipe based and therefore don't require manufacturing.


Other drugs would likely be worse then the 68% "do it yourself" due to the prevelence of illegal drug production in third world countries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/06/cigarette-smuggling-uk-organised-crime

Is an interesting article.

Alcohol is the same too, I imagine a good portion of the alcohol bought in the UK is on the black market. However, even though it is technically sold on the black market, it's not the same market as drugs. It's more of a case of people driving to France and loading up on cigarettes and alcohol and selling it to friends.

To be honest though, I can go to a dodgy newsagent and buy a can of Coca Cola that has been bought on the black market.



FootballFan said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Kantor said:
Kasz216 said:
I would probably vote Liberal Democrats. I feel like the Authortarian levels of Britain are at a scary high level.

I mean stuff we complain about in the patriot act is stuff that happens in the UK all the time.

Conservative is a close second though based on the "Key issues" i've read between the two so far. I'll keep you up to date on my "non" vote.


Also, what's up with the health care saying "It's for the people who need it not who can pay."?

I mean, you guys have universal healthcare. Is there some rampant discrimination against the poor? I mean, I know if your poor your MUCH more likely to die of random diseases in the UK but I thought that was just due to the fact that the poor usually have a worse lifestyle.

It's the Liberal Democrats' and Conservatives' job to complain about what Labour are doing. And Gordon Brown has a newfound obsession with agreeing with everything the Lib Dems say.

Having said that, people being denied treatment which they need due to lack of funds is quite a serious problem within the NHS, and one which all of the parties promise to tackle (of course, one of them has had 13 years to do so, which Clegg and Cameron point out every ten minutes).

To be fair on Labour, they have over trebled the budget of the NHS since they've got into power. Really, if tripling the budget of something doesn't solve the problem, I don't think there's much that can be done under the current ways of doing things.

Instead of the NHS, we should have forced HSAs coupled with optional "emergency" insurance (only for the rarest, and most costly of health issues) and have all services provided by the private sector. That way, everybody would get the drugs they always want, because they can decide what their money is spent on, rather than the Government, or a Trust.

This system has proven to be very successful in other countries, in both reducing the costs and increasing the quality of healthcare.

Unfortunately, this country seems to have some sort of love-in with the NHS, and none of the parties would ever propose anything like the above, for fear of political suicide. However, the NHS really is unsustainable, going by the crude measure of past trends and extrapolating them into the future, we can predict that by 2027, if nothing else changes, the NHS will cost roughly 22% of GDP - almost 1 in every 4 pounds, it's currently at around 10%.

I blame overpopulation, rising levels of obesity and Wii Fit


so wii fit isn't helping people lose weight? thats sad.



Well actually you would be surprised how much money obesity costs the NHS. And it is a rising problem, it effects various organs and significantly the heart. On top of the replacement hips knees etc etc.

If we were a slim nation, it would save a small fortune! Which consequently could be pushed back into the National health allowing for and contributing to a more "sustainable service."

Also being well documented that at times there has been a shortage of hospital beds, no it wasn't suppose to be a joke post.



Damn was suppose to quote Samuel....arghh well.

@MARCUSDJACKSON:

That was the joke part of the post.