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360
16m max
likely bout 15.7

wii
17.8m max
likely around 17.3

my guess'



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Lost tears of Kain said:
TWRoO said:

as of week ending 3rd November 360 was at 12.95 million, if we add 2.8 million to that is will make it to 15.75 million....I expect it to do slightly, but not that much better than last year. (if you compare the lines from last to this year, despite 360 being higher before christmas, they have actually crossed paths now, 360 last year was higher for the week ending the 18th than 360 this year was for 17th. not quite sure about when all those weird American holidays fell though, which may have helped last years w/end 18th)


Why i stated around 16 million

I was guessing it was 13.1 million beg of nov, guess i was 150k off

Either way, it will be close to 16 million


ah, that makes sense then....also i just added an Edit explaining why it was gaining advantage this year by the skewed weeks (the 2.8 million was for the 9 weeks ending 30th December...though as the worldwide charts use the American dates that means ending 31st for PAL and Japan)



Shissy said:
360
16m max
likely bout 15.6-15.8

wii
17.5m max
likely around 16.8-17

my guess'

whoa there, to get to 17.5 million the Wii would need less than 550k per week average each week (6 weeks remaining) It was already at 430k last week, and it hasn't got to it's potential in America (the week soon to be posted will be massive) it has just increased 30% over last week for 'other' and Japanese seasonal increases usually only start early December.

18 million is a minimum for my calculations... that is not much more than 600k per week which is a stupidly small number now i think about what i just said, ok 18.5 million minimum....that's with minimal supply.....more probably it will be 19-19.5M, and could easily make 20M supply dependant.

 

Wii 19.5M
360 15.8M
PS3 8M



Some data worth noting

360 Hardware
Weeks 2007 2006 Difference
Nov 3/4 193,657 133,751 59,906
Nov 10/11 204,960 193,440 71,426
Nov 17/18 225,330 245,299 51,457
Nov 24/25 0 274,398 -222,941
Dec 1/2 0 320,831 -543,772
Dec 8/9 0 442,824 -986,596
Dec 15/16 0 496,835 -1,483,431
Dec 22/23 0 566,638 -2,050,069
Dec 29/30 0 202,280 -2,252,349

 

The total difference at the bottom is basically how many more units the 360 will have to sell to meet last year's performance.

NOTE: This is just a copy from my spreadsheet, so it is important to note that the negative numbers are just auto-calculations. The 360 won't be ahead(positive #) or behind(negative #) by that amount until the data for those weeks is actually in.

 



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nuff said sqrl...comparing to those 9 weeks (the ones in which the 360 managed 2.8M) this year it isn't significantly better...it just entered the christmas season higher, but because of this is starting it's climb slower.

I amguessing all that junk about black friday etc was actually a week earlier last year, so this upcoming week should help this year more...and overall it should have a better December, but nothing significant. (500k more than 2006 is the highest i see...which would put 360 only just above 16mil)



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Black friday last year was the 24th iirc. So if I understood your comment correctly you are off in your assumption that Black Friday was the week ending the 18th last year.



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@ sqrl )

your table is nice , but it doesn't use the adjusted numbers for 360 ww sales hm? VGChartz adjusted weekly numbers are lower than that



I don't normally do an update to my spreadsheet but once a week. So it is definitely off a bit right now. From what I can tell, those numbers are about 15k too high for 2007 right now.



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Sqrl said:
Black friday last year was the 24th iirc. So if I understood your comment correctly you are off in your assumption that Black Friday was the week ending the 18th last year.

Well that's odd then, because the graph of last year shows a bigger jump from 11th - 18th than 18th - 25th, i thought that was meant to be when it went higher....or is it mean to be the week before Thanksgiving that goes up? (do people buy presents for thanksgiving?)



I reckon the 360 will be nowhere near 17m by the end of 2007. It will be just over 15m IMHO.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)