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Euphoria14 on 20 April 2010
richardhutnik said:
Euphoria14 said:
selnor said:
The best part is, the media loved the preview. Calling it impressive anti aliasing. I cant wait to see everyones face when Alan Wake has comments like "simply the best graphics on consoles yet" or "best graphics this generation". Because it will get those. It's destined to. The funny bit will be if it gets those and is indeed 960x540. Man some people here would melt down there brain with that info.


How? Teletext says that 3D Dot Game Heroes has the best graphics ever.

If you can promise me that agreeing to this sentence will put an end to debates like this one, then I will agree with you.  Otherwise, I am ONLY giving you possible consideration for the category of art direction, and not technical prowless.


Of course it would be art direction.



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richardhutnik on 20 April 2010
crackerman said:
A game that has had development changes, platform changes, and a rocky dev cycyle wont be as nice looking as first party sony titles, who know cell better then anyone. When they left PC, and scrapped the open world for linear, the writing was on the wall. Console limitations.

Yep... this thread is what got crackerman banned.

A little game one can play with oneself is to ask if a post they are looking at is what they got banned.  If you answer yes, and find out it was, then score some points.  Doing this a lot strengthens one's trolldar.



Yakuzaice on 20 April 2010
richardhutnik said:
crackerman said:
A game that has had development changes, platform changes, and a rocky dev cycyle wont be as nice looking as first party sony titles, who know cell better then anyone. When they left PC, and scrapped the open world for linear, the writing was on the wall. Console limitations.

Yep... this thread is what got crackerman banned.

A little game one can play with oneself is to ask if a post they are looking at is what they got banned.  If you answer yes, and find out it was, then score some points.  Doing this a lot strengthens one's trolldar.

It wasn't actually this thread though.  At least not the specific post he was banned for.



selnor on 20 April 2010
crackerman said:
Selnor, the same guy who said Conviction would be the best looking console game, now it;'s Alan Wake, then it will be Halo 3, can anyone take him seriosuly?

PR peopkle spin and BS all the time, it's their job, please.

Alan wake does not look that great at all, especially the environment, has no chance of topping GOW 3, UC2 or killzone 3, when used properly the 360 is older and cannot compete with PS3 exclusives, the cell is too good when used right. This is fact.

At most it will be in the upper echelon of console games, but surely a 360 exclusive wont top the ps3 exclusives graphically. They are years old now, there is a reason the best looking console games are on PS3.

Ive never said Conviction will be the best LOL. It's Urela Engine 2.5 Not even UE3. LOL.

Never said Halo 3 was, is or will be. Reach wont be, but maybe best technical achievemnet.

Alan Wake has already gotten some great comments from media. So it's easily in with a chance. Easily. I am gonna make a thread which will track how many reviews say it's the best graphics on consoles or ever.



JaggedSac on 20 April 2010

The plot thickens guys.  Some people are seeing geometry at 640p and now 720p.  And they are claiming this isn't a bullshot:

 

 

Two threads to look at:

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336&page=37

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=57213&page=6



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selnor on 20 April 2010
JaggedSac said:

The plot thickens guys.  Some people are seeing geometry at 640p and now 720p.  And they are claiming this isn't a bullshot:

 

Maybe because Alan Wake is the only Console game ever to have 4XMSAA it's confusing people with uber smooth edges. LOL.



Rainbird on 20 April 2010
selnor said:

Maybe because Alan Wake is the only Console game ever to have 4XMSAA it's confusing people with uber smooth edges. LOL.

Sarcasm? O_o



Skeeuk on 20 April 2010

its 540p.

but still will be a great looking game



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selnor on 20 April 2010
Rainbird said:
selnor said:

Maybe because Alan Wake is the only Console game ever to have 4XMSAA it's confusing people with uber smooth edges. LOL.

Sarcasm? O_o


Of course. However it is the only game to have Full screen 4xMSAA On any console.

Some games have had 4xMLAA or QSAA I beleive. But both these mthods blur textures and are made specifically for less stress on a system. Use them on Crysis you'll see what I mean.

Even then I have know idea if those games using 4xMLAA are actually Full Screen Anti aliasing. FSAA. I also believe Alan Wake is the first FSAA game on consoles as well.



selnor on 20 April 2010
Skeeuk said:
its 540p.

but still will be a great looking game


There is several images going around the net which confirm 720p. With a pixel count. As Jagged Sac said. The plot thickens.