nintendo stoll motion control's from sony! its on youtube.(ps2)
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nintendo stoll motion control's from sony! its on youtube.(ps2)
natal(ps2 eye toy)
Ps3 eye --> 360 copied with the 360 cam and failed
HD movies (blu-ray)--> 360 copied with hd-dvd and failed
home--> 360 trying to copy
game install--> 360 copied with disc install
hdmi--> 360 copied
xvid support--> 360 copied
richardhutnik said:
Did the PS2 have it? I am curious how the 360 copied something on the PS3 when it came out as it was before the PS3 was released. I remember seeing the guide button day one for the 360. Apparently Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo thought it appropriate to stick a menu button in the middle of it that would enable it to access the main game menu, power down, etc... All of them have it, and all of them allow you to turn your system on or off with the middle button. |
When in my statement did i mention the PS3? I said Sony because I was referring to the Psp which had the "Home" button before the 360 I believe and if you read my statement after its says summit like sorry i thought it was people copying Sony in general not just ps3.
So Microsoft did copy the "guide button" from Sony
Sri Lumpa said:
Well, the NES had the first bowser |
touche, you win this round Sri Lumpa. But next time expect my puns to be far more mighty
"But as always, technology refused to be dignity's bitch."--Vance DeGeneres
| UncleScrooge said: When talking about Nintendo and Atari I meant that Nintendo's NES controlles was so different from Atari's that they surely didn't copy the controller. I wasn't talking about the concept of gaming consoles itself. As I said I could be wrong here but I remember my neighbour saying the NES controller felt weird because it had a D-Pad (instead of a Joystick). The foundation for all current controllers (besides the Wii remote maybe) is the NES controller. The Dual Shock surely's got some twists on its own (as I said Dual analog sticks where quite an idea) but basically it's a NES controller with added features. And Dual Shocks do look similar to NES controllers. You just think they don't because most controllers look exactly the same And it doesn't matter if there are videos from 2003 or 1890 or even earlier. Sony tested some ways to control games and they thought it wasn't worth it. Nintendo developed the Wii remote and built a console around it and when Sony saw that it worked they made their own motion controller. You can pretty much tell Move was inspired by the Wii remote because it looks almost exactly the same (don't compare those tiny things that are different on the Move controller. Compare Move and Wiimote and then compare Move and a Dual Shock - which was the source of inspiration? But I don't think inspiration from other companies is bad anyways. As long as you improve on the existing concept I highly appreciate it. I just think it's silly to say Sony wasn't inspired by the Wii Remote - sure they were! It's pretty obvious. But that's not bad. Some (do I dare to say "most"?) of the very best pieces of art, literature, music, etc. were inspired by others. That's how civilization works. Imagine the guy who inventend the wheel killing everyone else because they were "copying" him
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Actually, todays controllers are based on ideas from other controllers predating the NES. The NES controller was more a collection and tweaking of these ideas. The Vectrex of '82 has a similar rectangular design, only slightly larger. Instead of a D-Pad it had one of the earliest analog sticks (I think either it or Atari 5200 was the first), as well as four face buttons instead of only 2.
Even the D-Pad has been around, albiet in a rather rough form, for a few years before the NES. With the Intellivision, Entex Select a Game, Atari Game Brain (was discontinued right before release), and a handheld game called Cosmic Hunter for the Microvision.

Of course, there is no denying that Nintendo's ability to combine all these, while improving upon them, has left its mark on gaming history. It's the same way I see the Dual Shock controller. Some wish to credit Nintendo with making analog sticks popular in gaming. However, the stick that came with the N64 was actually digital, but offered a much greater range of motion than a standard D-Pad. Nintendo did this because of the moving parts associated with an analog stick, fearing malfunctions. Sony, however, saw the impact analog could have on gaming and invested in the tech to improve upon it. In April 1996, they released their first analog controller, a flightstick. In April 1997, they released the Dual Analog Controller, a precursor to the Dual Shock.
Something interesting to note is that the Japanese DA controllers (again, released April 1997) featured vibration feedback, but it was removed in other areas for patent reasons. The first Rumble Pack was released in Japan in April 1997. I think this is why some in America and Europe think Sony copied Nintendo with the rumble feature, even though they released the exact same time in Japan. Thank God for the interwebs. 
sony has copied more things this generation then any other companey
Hey I'm not jumping all over Sony for coping others, mainly Nintendo.
But when we bring up the power glove, Wii mote and Move, these are popular well know items. Le Stick, or whatever and things like that were not popular so they dont matter in this descussion.
Let me put it this way. If Sony had the move day one, like the Wii, I would respect it a lot more. They did not take the risk, like Nintendo. They waited for the Wii to blow up and now they want a piece of the pie. Did Nintendo invtent motion controls? Of course not. They just brought it to the masses and made it very popular.
The D-pad, analog stock, rumble pad, diamond shaped 4-button layout, shoulder buttons, motion controls, ect. These were all made popular by Nintendo, even if not invented by them, eventough a lot of them were. It's kinda funny because it shows where Nintendo focus really is, game control. Its what they do best.
| Kage848 said: Hey I'm not jumping all over Sony for coping others, mainly Nintendo. But when we bring up the power glove, Wii mote and Move, these are popular well know items. Le Stick, or whatever and things like that were not popular so they dont matter in this descussion. Let me put it this way. If Sony had the move day one, like the Wii, I would respect it a lot more. They did not take the risk, like Nintendo. They waited for the Wii to blow up and now they want a piece of the pie. Did Nintendo invtent motion controls? Of course not. They just brought it to the masses and made it very popular. The D-pad, analog stock, rumble pad, diamond shaped 4-button layout, shoulder buttons, motion controls, ect. These were all made popular by Nintendo, even if not invented by them, eventough a lot of them were. It's kinda funny because it shows where Nintendo focus really is, game control. Its what they do best. |
I think it's kinda ridiculous to dismiss tech just because it wasn't "popular." Also, I wouldn't call the Power Glove popular. Maybe popular to mock at how inaccurate it was, but it was a commercial failure. Not to mention it was made by Mattel, not Nintendo. Also, how can you say Nintendo popularized the analog stick and rumble? First, the stick in the N64 was digital, not analog. Second, rumble came out at the exact same time on both (being internal on the PS1, like all vibration functions since). Third, and most important, the PS1 sold over 3 times as many units as the N64. Which means it was much more popular, and therefore popularized the ideas of both. Just like the Eyetoy may have been a financial success, selling over 10 mil units, but it was the Wii with its over 70 mil sales that made motion control popular.
Something tells me if Sony came out with a Virtual Man, and it was a huge success (unlike the Virtual Boy), you wouldn't be here defending them. You would probably accuse them of copying.
What was that stick in the dam middle of the N64 controller? Mario the first 3d platformer game used it and started it.
Also the Rumble Pak was on the market in April of 97. Dualshock was on the market in May 98. Sony only showed it off in late 97.
His statement about making it popular isn't really accurate either.
I say give the people who invented their due, but it's clear Sony has been on Nintendo dick.
Sense day one after they got but hurt about the SNES addon deal.
The only thing Sony has really pioneer is making us pay high prices for systems.
Never mind 3DO, and Neo Geo beat them to that too. Poor Sony always playing Michael Jackson to Nintendo's Elvis!
Sorry if anybody wrote it before, but... Doesn't PS3 only do everything? So Wii and XB360 copied everything from it. 