ManusJustus said:
hobbit said:
ManusJustus said: I like how, in only a couple of years, the right wing has changed from painting the left as bleeding heart cowards who care for the rights of foreigners and are afraid to go to war, to socialist dictators who want to take away all our rights. |
its funny how power changes people. 10 yrs ago the dems were against subsidies for corporations and were against adding healthcare plans to medicare. Now they pushed the bank bailouts and healthcare plans for all. They didn't like bush working with corporations, and now they own banks and car companies. They were against taxing the "middle class" , now they are pushing a VAT and adding 15 cents to every gallon of gas. They were against the hundreds of billions of dollars of deficits, and now they push deficits spending in the Trillions as the way to make the economy work. Go figure
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Democrats have always been for healthcare, in fact we are one of the few (if not only) developed country without universal healthcare.
Taxes have to go back up for our country to get out of debt. All these debt problems started with Reagan who thought it would be a good idea to not tax rich people, but instead have wealth trickle down and tax the middle class instead. Concerning gas tax, roads do not pay for themselves, the construction and maintenance of highways is a huge loss for the government, and the gas tax used to pay for it is nothing compared to the actual cost. Railroads are the only economically viable form of land transportation.
Democrats have always been better on deficet control than Republicans. Bill Clinton actually got Ronald Reagan's and George H. W. Bush's spending under control, but George W. Bush has got America in a huge hole with uncontrolled spending, tax cuts for the rich (which gave us no economic benefit), and two ongoing wars that cost trillions.
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Thats why they opposed medicare reform to give seniors health plans?
no spending has to go down to get out of debt; we need true entitlement reform.
Reagon gave us growth. Carter gave us stagflation
Roads are in the states territories they can pay for them.
Dems better than Repubs? What happend after the dems took control in 06? $3.1 trillion in deficits until the end of Bush's term; more than bush and the republicans racked up in 5 yrs.
Clinton got us what? The repubs took over in 94 and almost had a balanced budget(debt went up every year under clinton)
Bush tax cuts got no economic benifit? lol the economy grew so fast that the governement took in more money after the cuts.
Wars costing trillions? sure there expensive but the clinton yrs left us huge military problems. Restructuring; R&D for new weapon systems and buying them costs alot. Up armoring HMMWVs and M1s costs tons of money too.