Taking the cost of the port into account, surely it cannot cost anywhere as much as £40,000,000 - $60,000,000, either way you look at it, SE has MADE profit, profit = not a flop. Also taking it into account that MS has pretty much did the advertising for SE, even more profits :/

i think its a dissapointment but not a major flop. JRPGs are falling in popularity over here in the west but its clear that people still associate the series with the playstation name. The game didn't do that amazingly on the ps3 ps3 stateside 800k(good but not amazing). God of War did better despite a much smaller advertising campain,less recognisable name and 1 less week on sale.

I think the most important thing about this is that it shows that square failed to sell this game to a wider audience beyond the FF core fanbase , hence the poor sales on the 360. I think versus XIII will do better considering its going in a darker, more action orientated direction. I think it will appeal to a lot of core gamers who arn't in the FF series, and if the adverts look as sick as the teaser trailers im sure it will appeal to an even larger audience.

No, it makes it even better because some people still don't realize it's a joke.

Ahh, I JUST got that single L in the rickrol'd thing above.  Cool

I would agree with  statement. I enjoyed the changes they made in FFXIII for the most part as they seemed fresh and a change of pace, but a lot dont a gree. And i'm A FF core Fanbase as I've played everyone. (but me =/= everyone)

But I do think squares intention like you said to widen the fanbase and they failed. They might have gotten some 13 year old kids like FF8 got me, but no more than if it would have been a normal FF.

And some people on this site are more melodramitic than the game itself.. :P it's trending like its going to underperform if the legs trend continues. But not a flop.

its like highschool :P

Exactly the nature of the game itself is the reason for poor sales. It is a bit evident that the OP was intended as a joke, but there were quite a lot of people who have believed that it was a Flop and continued to state that over the pages, so began the useless argument.

I would agree.  That and the constant problem of the Final Fantasy series has been they always feel they need to 'reinvent the wheel' every game.  Sure, its good to add new content and even change the gameplay, but not to the extent they do it.

Look back and see many of the most successful game series out there.  Mario, Pokemon, Halo, GTA, The Sims, Dragon Quest.  They got to the place they're at by taking what worked in the previous game and simply adding to it in the sequel.  This is what made them popular with fans and successful as a series.  Final Fantasy however is an enigma.  They make a completly original title, and for the sequel, they start over completely from scratch and throw away nearly 99% of everything from the previous title and start over again.  Its only logical that some people will start to pick and choose which games are 'the best' and which ones 'suck'.  And some others get tired of the series because its a roller coaster ride of 'awesome games' and 'lackluster titles'.  You can't make 'the best game ever' if you keep throwing away your old ideas and starting over.

The best part of the joke is that the joke is right. 1m on 40m user base, good luck spinning that positively.