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I'm not really wanting to argue with you Source, but this very site was coming up with many different ways of how Sony wouldn't meet the 13 million FY 2010 estimate from Sony. But they did meet that estimate.

Granted looking at the demand vs. supply constraints I think Sony didn't believe they could pull it off, but the fact is, they did.



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It's possible, but still it depends on how well the PS3 does in the holiday season. I think that it will be close, but will not make it to 50 million.



Tridrakious said:
I'm not really wanting to argue with you Source, but this very site was coming up with many different ways of how Sony wouldn't meet the 13 million FY 2010 estimate from Sony. But they did meet that estimate.

Granted looking at the demand vs. supply constraints I think Sony didn't believe they could pull it off, but the fact is, they did.

I never understand the arguement of "you were wrong before so that you are likely to be wrong this time as well". Were you never wrong before? You asked for a real discussion and TheSource offered his opinion as well as the reasoning. What he didn't do is to agree with you.

Also, I'm not sure why PS3 meets Sony's projected shipment last year is related to the prediction for this thread. Does shipping 13 mil units last FY guarantee Sony will ship 16 mil+ this FY?

 



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Not likely imo, I think the 360 will take too many sales away from it when they price cut at xmas.



I'm not saying that just because the majority of this site was wrong before about PS3 sales estimates, that it makes it a guarantee they will be wrong this time too.

What I am saying is that it is possible they will be wrong again. Move and GT5 have the potential to counter the price drop and Move has the potential to counter the Slim launch. 2010's holiday season could resemble 2009's holiday season.



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Ah balls, misread the thingy, yeah that's demand per week not month. /Headdesk

But still averaging 1.2M per month - 300k per week ALL year, would still put Sony at 13.2M whereas 16M is needed. They will have to unearth some serious sales to get that additional 3M boost. 47M is my personal prediction.



 

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I think if Sony forecast is 16 million sales for next yr than its a 90% chance that they will hit the target and if the Sony forecast 13 - 14million PS3 for next fiscal yr than its a 90% chance that it wont hit 50million before March 2011.

i think last yr also everyone after the Q1 said that Sony should have lowered PS3 forecast and bla bla bla... but they have done it well n probably they could have gone a bit higher too if they didnot have these supply issues.



Icyedge said:
Stanislav.Ten said:
 

Well off the top of my head I can recall a few exclusives that may be causing some of the "I might just get a 360 for this game.." sort of thing, Alan Wake - definitely now the PC version has been discontinued, Splinter Cell Conviction which came out during this week - yet to see the sales of the first week, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach and the announcement of Gears 3, despite being just outside the end of the year during which the PS3 is predicted to sell 50m by the OP but still relatively close to that date(April 2011). If you think about it,

There is an exclusive game that have been postponed for the last 4 years, bound to be hyped beyond belief by now.

Splinter Cell Conviction, in development for several years now with a large fanbase, although the FPS element may turn some of them off..

Mass Effect 2, highly acclaimed by the critics, despite lower sales figures it is still a juggernaut in the making - really surprised at the sales, expected considerably higher.

Halo Reach - The halo series are the juggernauts of Xbox, bound to increase sales provided the Beta is as awesome as they are hyping it to be.

Gears 3 - Another 360 juggernaut, the highest selling exclusive on Xbox, bound to be hyped up beyond belief.

 

 

By normal I mean somewhere borderline 200-300k, if averaging such figures up until November it will only result in a sum of 300K*7= 2.1M sales until November, if PS3 averages 700k for the duration of the Christmas period(nov-jan) - around 2.1M on top and then 500K in Feb, 400k in March and etc. It will round up to around 4.6M in sales, which is a strange figure to myself personally as to how 13M were achieved I am confused. Not being biased here but I have no clue how the consoles are being sold in such high numbers - both on the 360 and the PS3 front when the average sales are amounting to around 300-350k a month. Either the sales are ridiculously overtracked or I am just not getting it.

Imo, the Game lineup has just encouraged those who were on the verge of buying PS3 as it is, contributed - but in the slightest, the price slashes and the introduction of "Better, slimmer" models have boomed the sales, I know several of my friends who have gotten rid of their Phats and purchased a Slim instead, for whatever reason I am not sure..

I am stating that nothing new will likely to be introduced that will rival the scale to that of GT5, sure there will be exclusives but nothing will be hyped to an extent that PS juggernaut would if it were to be announced for this years release. I am suspending the judgment in a sense that the PS3 MIGHT achieve similar sales to that of last year without the price slashes and the release of new model to back them up, but no way could the sales mark hit 50M by this time next year. - 45M maybe, not 50. E3 can influence the sales of the console, but not by such a large margin, 3M increase seems like a large mark, optimistic but not realistic.

 

P.S By "normal" sales I was insinuating around 200-300k averaging a month up until Christmas.

You know that the list you posted, the same thing can be said of the PS3 library and 2010 release. Anyway both companies will announce lots of things at E3, its not going to be stale on either side. About the numbers, you missed a BIG something, sales for PS3 at the moment are averagin at 200K-250K per WEEK lol. 1 million per month at this moment.

"I know several of my friends who have gotten rid of their Phats and purchased a Slim instead, for whatever reason I am not sure.." Did they sold their last one or keep the 2 of them? If they sold their old one then its a new customer not a duplicate purchase. Also im an owner of a BC 60 GB PS3 that I paid 600$ why in hell would I pay to downgrade to slim lol. Your surely exagerating the effect of duplicate purchase, software sales proves my point anyway (in case you dont know Sony sales more software per week than your idol even with a fewer install base, if there would be so much duplicate purchase as you were insinuating earlier this wouldnt be the case).

First of all, I do not idolize Microsoft, if I could I would change many things about 360, but I am just giving you the list that you have asked for, second of all. I was just saying that there would be no reason for PS3 to have such high sales(16m), because my opinion differs to yours and I have provide the facts as to why I think PS3 won't have as much sales considering the fact that unless there is another price cut planned for this year, more customers will purchase a cheaper alternative - 360.

 

As I was saying, the main reasons for the PS3 MAJOR success last year were:

*Price cuts, large price cut in UK

*Release of Slimmer model which caused discontinuation of older models, therefore affected the prices of the old models as stock was cleared.

*Lineup has somewhat affected the not yet decided people.

And PS has a MUCH larger fanbase, after all, PS1 and PS2 did shift around 250-300M consoles in their lifetime.



 

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Tridrakious said:
I'm not saying that just because the majority of this site was wrong before about PS3 sales estimates, that it makes it a guarantee they will be wrong this time too.

What I am saying is that it is possible they will be wrong again. Move and GT5 have the potential to counter the price drop and Move has the potential to counter the Slim launch. 2010's holiday season could resemble 2009's holiday season.

At the same time, it's possible they might turn out to be right this time and you might be wrong if Move and GT5 did not live up to the potential that you expect. That's why I'm not sure why you have to bring up the past prediction failute.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

I'm fully aware that I could be wrong, but there's not a shred of doubt that GT5 will at least be the 2nd highest selling in the franchise.

I'm expecting worldwide bundles that last up to 6 months after the introduction of the bundle. I see 120gb PS3 being phased out at $249.99 sometime this holiday.
The Move will also have a 250gb PS3 bundle that will also have a game packed in for $349.99.