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Kasz216 on 15 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Khuutra said:

Off-topic, I hope they kill off the Sentry with this new storyline. I love his character, have liked him since the original series in which he appeared, but to do him any justice at all he's going to have to kill himself in the end.


Are you reading seige? Last book is next week I think, Thor is going to do it...he is going to snap and hit warriors rage and own the void.

That.... really doesn't seem possible. The Sentry's whole deal is that he's more powerful than everybody else on the planet put together. He could fight Galactus to a standstill.

Yeah, i mean they've basically implied that his powers are the powerset of GOD.

Like THE marvel god that creates and powers everything.

Didn't he lose in a fight with Hulk?

That was before he knew he was god though.  He used to think his powers were basically being superman... but later had it revelaed to him that his a multiverse level reality manipulator.

So basically before he had a set limit of power because he thought he had it... now he knows his power is basically unlimited.



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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:

That.... really doesn't seem possible. The Sentry's whole deal is that he's more powerful than everybody else on the planet put together. He could fight Galactus to a standstill.

Yeah, i mean they've basically implied that his powers are the powerset of GOD.

Like THE marvel god that creates and powers everything.

Didn't he lose in a fight with Hulk?

Sort of, but it's really heavily implied that he wanted to lose that fight.

Keep in mind, in the first Sentry story (like ten years ago, look it up, it's awesome) the Sentry's alter-ego was able to kill the Hulk like it wasn't even a thing. The Sentry when he really cuts loose has no actual limits on his powers.



Xbbjf9s on 15 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Khuutra said:

Off-topic, I hope they kill off the Sentry with this new storyline. I love his character, have liked him since the original series in which he appeared, but to do him any justice at all he's going to have to kill himself in the end.


Are you reading seige? Last book is next week I think, Thor is going to do it...he is going to snap and hit warriors rage and own the void.

That.... really doesn't seem possible. The Sentry's whole deal is that he's more powerful than everybody else on the planet put together. He could fight Galactus to a standstill.

Yeah, i mean they've basically implied that his powers are the powerset of GOD.

Like THE marvel god that creates and powers everything.

Didn't he lose in a fight with Hulk?

I forgot about that! yes he did.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
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Wait isn't the tri force an item? A relic that need to be touched?

Didn't Kratos get his "hope" power by touching an item?  Pandoras box?

Without that... Kratos wouldn't of even had the power to beat Ares.

Also, no.  Not always.  Sometimes the Triforce is actually inside of link when he's born.

Wait...are you comparing the most powerful link to Kratos? I know there are multiple linkssince he has so many games.....Didn't you mention something about this Khuutra?

Nope. Letsdance said Kratos would be able to take on "All Links combined". I haven't brought up the Triforce because Link gets the entire Triforce at least once, and if we gave him that then he'd basically be all-powerful.



letsdance on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
JerCotter7 said:
Khuutra:

For link to hit kratos wouldn't he have to will whatever body part he wants to hit with to become solid? Because if not the whole argument just fails.

And if, lets say his hand, becomes solid and kratos blade is where link was aiming for that would hurt link.

To be honest I haven't played either but your argument just seems so unrealistic.

I know it's unrealistic, but that's how the Magic Cape works. You can be standing inside of a wall - or even an enemy - and swing your sword. There's nothing stopping you in any case. Link takes damage from touching enemies, but with the Magic Cape he can stand inside them and swing away. He's totally untouchable with it on.

Yeah, it's unrealistic and unfair. I know. I've acknowledged it a bunch.

It's not an issue if you don't take this as "All Links combined vs. Kratos", but letsdance refuses to just pick one Link to have the fight going down with.


I think the developers just did a shoddy work with the cape just like they did with the game right before it and bombs. Give it up dude he would be able to be countered while attacking... unless you really want to go as far as saying he is immune to bombs... but we know how ridiculous that is so youll just ignore it



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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
Khuutra said:

I know it's unrealistic, but that's how the Magic Cape works. You can be standing inside of a wall - or even an enemy - and swing your sword. There's nothing stopping you in any case. Link takes damage from touching enemies, but with the Magic Cape he can stand inside them and swing away. He's totally untouchable with it on.

Yeah, it's unrealistic and unfair. I know. I've acknowledged it a bunch.

It's not an issue if you don't take this as "All Links combined vs. Kratos", but letsdance refuses to just pick one Link to have the fight going down with.

I think the developers just did a shoddy work with the cape just like they did with the game right before it and bombs. Give it up dude he would be able to be countered while attacking... unless you really want to go as far as saying he is immune to bombs... but we know how ridiculous that is so youll just ignore it

He's been wounded by bombs in many games. That's canon. He's not immune to bombs.

He can block them with his shield, though.

And it doesn't matter that "[you] think the developers just did a shoddy work with the cape", because the cape works a particular way, period. You don't have to like it. You don't even have to acknowledge it. But if you don't acknowledge it, you don't have a leg to stand on.



Carl on 15 April 2010

I see.

Just goes to prove i need to start reading comics again



                            

Kasz216 on 15 April 2010
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Also... divine beings are magic.  The Triforce afterall is made by... divine beings.


In order to take away that magic you would need to make kratos cease to exist which would make the arguement all in void. its not like it was a gift from a god or something. He didn't assk for Zues to be his sperm donor.


Exactly!!!!

Hey you're the one who wanted to get rid of magic. Kratos without magic is just a normal guy, son of Zeus or not (kind of like Perseus) - if Kratos keeps some degree of his strength, does Link keep the Triforce?


I meant magical items. Sorry, I am working and reading this at the same time.

In which you need to ask yourself... aren't i just limiting this so Kratos can win?

It's like asking who would win in a fight between Batman and Superman, if we took away all of supermans powers.

Link has been around forever, if youare going by what the devs give him he wins due to the fact that he has thousands of items...nowwhere near a fair fight.

It's not really the items Kratos should be worried about.

It's the Triforce.

Kratos and Link baseline... are much weaker then Kratos and Link vs "bosses"

Kratos is only about as powerful as any other half god, he only gets to "God killing" status due to the power of Hope.

Link goes to "God killing" satus due to the Triforce of Courage... which greatly enhances all of his stats... the bigger the threat, the more power it pulls out.

 

Kratos "hope" powerup isn't going to activate vs Link, who is so purehearted it makes you sick to your stomach a little bit. Kratos isn't going to be capped at the top of his power... he's going to be in his "Warrior of Sparta" form.

Link's Tri-force powerup would however still be active.


Additionally, the Triforce of Courage is just a stronger mcguffin then Hope.

In general because of who link is... Kratos won't be able to "rise to the occasion."

 

 

Not true, kratos did not want to fight hercules...we all know how that ended. He had no intention of killing Hephestus until he attacked him, if link is the aggressor he will "rise to the occasion". Kratos has a sense of morality, he isn't a bloodthirsty beast.

A) Link is going to be the agressor?

B) They were infected all the same.  They weren't pure of heart.

C) The Triforce is more powerful regardless.


Wait isn't the tri force an item? A relic that need to be touched?

Didn't Kratos get his "hope" power by touching an item?  Pandoras box?

Without that... Kratos wouldn't of even had the power to beat Ares.

Also, no.  Not always.  Sometimes the Triforce is actually inside of link when he's born.

Wait...are you comparing the most powerful link to Kratos? I know there are multiple linkssince he has so many games.....Didn't you mention something about this Khuutra?

Any Link will beat Kratos so long as he has the Triforce.

Though yes... some Links have the power of the Triforce imbued in them.

Baseline Kratos is MUCH weaker then you think he is... keep in mind ALL of GOW2 and GOW3 was fueled by "Hope" which was Kratos version of the triforce.  It wasn't hope in the sense of "hope can overcome any obsbstacle.  It was hope as in he became the embodiement of hope.

Kratos is the Embodiment of Hope.

Link is the Embodiment of Courage and Light.  It puts things in context.



Xbbjf9s on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Kasz216 said:
Xbbjf9s said:


Wait isn't the tri force an item? A relic that need to be touched?

Didn't Kratos get his "hope" power by touching an item?  Pandoras box?

Without that... Kratos wouldn't of even had the power to beat Ares.

Also, no.  Not always.  Sometimes the Triforce is actually inside of link when he's born.

Wait...are you comparing the most powerful link to Kratos? I know there are multiple linkssince he has so many games.....Didn't you mention something about this Khuutra?

Nope. Letsdance said Kratos would be able to take on "All Links combined". I haven't brought up the Triforce because Link gets the entire Triforce at least once, and if we gave him that then he'd basically be all-powerful.

Really letsdance? You really said that? what's wrong with you?



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
I see.

Just goes to prove i need to start reading comics again

Comics: they're pretty cool unless you get pulled into arguments EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHh