WOW this thread is just as offense if not more than the topic





Mr Khan said:
Marriage doesn't stop molestation. Most molestation happens within families, with married couples and such |
Yes, but here is the way I look at it (totally opinionated, not based on empirical evidence. Need to look into it more but..):
Being a leader in a church is a calling by God. However, I would imagine that many of the people going into the preisthood may go in without that asexual desire that Kasz mentioned - they may be perfectly good men that want to be good followers of God. However, I'd imagine that in doing such, and not be allowed to fulfill their sexual desires, they turn to what they can - much like what we see in the US prison population as well. Denial of certain psycophysical characteristics can cause deviancies as they try to satisfy themselves in whatever way they can.
I mean, I am a credentialed minister in a church denomination - fully licensed to be a pastor, and what have you. I could only imagine being torn between what I believe God wants me to do, and being denied my sexuality...It would be a very difficult thing to deal with. Therefore, I can understand why they do what they do. Not that I agree with it. It's absolutely abhorrent. It's also abhorrent the Catholic tradition doesn't allow them to marry. The church created this beast, they have to deal with it in the only way they can - jail the wicked people that did it, and change their dogma to allow them to live happy in marriage like so many other pastors have done, and not weakened their pulpit ministry.
As for molestation issues with families/couples, the statistics I've found don't point to married couples being the perpetratiors of such acts - do you have any statistical data that says that married couples (namely married men) are the ones that exhibit the most dangerous (and/or likely) source of child molestation? The only data I can find is that 66% of all child molesters are or were married. However, the median age of a child molester is 37 years old. Unmarried rates among men at 37 years old in the US is approximately 23%, which would point to a higher likelihood of unmarried/never married men being sex offenders as opposed to being married at one point...Backing my claim up that unmarried men are more likely to be child molesters.
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| highwaystar101 said:
Vatican comment on paedophiles draws gay groups' anger
Cardinal Bertone is seen as second only to Pope Benedict Gay rights activists have criticised a Vatican official who sought to link homosexuality to paedophilia when commenting on child sex abuse scandals. The UK's Stonewall group said it was astonishing gay people should still be dealing with "such an offensive myth". Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone had said homosexuality, not celibacy, lay behind the child sex abuse scandals. The cardinal, the Vatican's foreign minister, was speaking in Chile, where his comments were also condemned. Cardinal Bertone was attempting to defuse the scandals currently afflicting the Catholic Church, which are largely cases of priests molesting children, mainly boys, the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome. He added that some "surprising" initiatives regarding the sex abuse scandal would soon be revealed but did not elaborate. 'I have the documents' Visiting the Chilean capital Santiago on Monday, Cardinal Bertone told a news conference: "Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relationship between celibacy and paedophilia but many others have demonstrated, I was told recently, that there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia. "That is true. I have the documents of the psychologists. That is the problem." Patricio Walker, a Chilean senator who helped draft anti-paedophile laws, said he would like to see what scientific studies the cardinal was referring to because he thought he was wrong. A Chilean communist MP, Hugo Gutierrez, told AFP news agency: "Celibacy does more damage to a human being than homosexuality, which is a freely made choice. "I'm shocked by these words from a senior dignitary of the Church." In Rome, the head of Italian gay rights group Gaylib, Enrico Oliari, said it was "worrying that the foreign minister of a state that occupies the heart of the Italian capital would use arguments that are considered passe even in the Third World". Aurelio Mancuso, former president of a Italian gay rights association Arcigay, said: "The truth is that Bertone is clumsily trying to shift attention to homosexuality and away from the focus on new crimes against children that emerge every day." The Pope's spokesman has indicated that Benedict may have a discreet private meeting with victims of clerical sexual abuse in Malta during his visit there this coming weekend. The Pope should not feel he is under the pressure of the glare of the media if such a meeting takes place, Fr Federico Lombardi said, so that he can listen and communicate with them. In Malta, 10 men have taken three Catholic priests to court for alleged child abuse in their youth and have asked to meet the Pope. There has been a high incidence of reported cases on the small Mediterranean island, whose inhabitants are mainly Catholic, our Rome correspondent notes.
I read about this in the Metro earlier and though "wow, this is off-topic gold". Anyway, to be fair, the Vatican have tried to distance themselves from Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone based on this, but still... |
Isn't that the type of thing that got them into this mess?
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