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Can't say I'm too familiar with any kind of research that shows what he's saying. There are a few articles like that, he could of just went with one that went more with his world views...

Or... he may just be basing it on the fact that the vast majority of pedophilia victims where priests are involved are boys.

I'm not sure i'd call those priests homosexuals though, that'd be like calling pedophiles heterosexual, which we invented the word Pedophile so we wouldn't have to.  Well that and it just fits better.

Additionally this is largely the case of the church only, as mostly young girls are abused.


It's like... 80% of boys have been molested in the church, obviously by male preists...

But in the rest of the world, it's like 90% of people abused are girls... by men.



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The Church has mishandled this whole affair quite spectacularly, i must say.

 

I almost hope that Richard Dawkins gets his way and has the Pope arrested when he goes to Britain, just to see the spectacle of it all (though nominally i oppose such a move since it violates standards of diplomatic immunity)



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Pedophilia is classified in the DSM as a disease, along the lines of sex addiction and other behvioral disorders. As far as all the research that has been done is concerened, and it's a lot, Homosexuality is not considered a disorder. No idea where this "research" is coming from, but it ain't the legitimate psychological community. I suppose since people can get "doctorates" in theology of all frickin' things, maybe they did the "research".



Just read what he's basing it on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8620135.stm

Basically because the majority of the problems are priests fiddling underage males its entirely down to homosexuality. Which is bullshit of the highest degree.



KingFate said:
dsister44 said:
I'll say this now, because people always seem to ignore this fact. And I'm quite tired of it.

Catholicism =/= All Christianity

They also have problem with the book the faith is based on. I mean it's pretty hard to counter when it calls homosexuality an abomination.

Hmm? I'm talking more of the way that these threads handle. They usually go something like this 

2-7 posts on topic> Screw the pope> Catholicism is stupid> Screw the pope some more> Someone realizes the thread is about something idiotic a bishop says> someone lists everything the pope has done he disagrees with> someone gets brave enough to defend his religion> said person basically gets flamed> someone comes to the conclusion that since a bishop said it that the pope means it so all Christianity believes it> Christianity is stupid /thread

Or something along the lines to that 



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Rath said:
Just read what he's basing it on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8620135.stm

Basically because the majority of the problems are priests fiddling underage males its entirely down to homosexuality. Which is bullshit of the highest degree.


It is a pretty strange thing though... considering its so different from the norm.

It may be a case of accessability, but it's not like girls are unaccesable, perhaps it has to do with the fact that Catholic pedophiles who like boys do infact see themselves as gay as well as a pedophile therefore seeing themselves as worse off and more in need of guidence and in joining the church.

 



Another day, another Catholic authority going off about homosexuality being an abomination.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

What a fucked up organization. It boggles the mind that they can unequivocally condemn abortion or homosexuality or anything at all when they can't even bring themselves to have a zero tolerance policy regarding child molestation of all ghastly things.



I'm not sure if the higher boys ratio is all that strange. Tried to do some research but sadly google isn't very quick to comb through about when mixed catholic schools were the norm - since the reported cases seem to start from the 1950s. The thing has probably been around for centuries anyway, and then it was for certain very severely limited to boys. Not exactly a tradition but who knows.

The fear of being reported might also be higher when girls are involved. In the last decades in the western world the stigma of reporting that as a girl/woman has been lessened. There is also the pregnancy issue (seriously couldn't find any data on whether, despite the Catholic church condemning them, there has been any use of condoms). According to wikipedia few of the victims were actually children, with most being teens (how old exactly, it's still argued), so that's also a possible issue.



alekth said:

I'm not sure if the higher boys ratio is all that strange. Tried to do some research but sadly google isn't very quick to comb through about when mixed catholic schools were the norm - since the sexual abuse cases seem to start from the 1950s. The thing has probably been around for centuries anyway, and then it was for certain very severely limited to boys. Not exactly a tradition but who knows.

The fear of being reported might also be higher when girls are involved. In the last decades in the western world the stigma of reporting that as a girl/woman has been lessened. There is also the pregnancy issue (seriously couldn't find any data on whether, despite the Catholic church condemning them, there has been any use of condoms). According to wikipedia few of the victims were actually children, with most being teens (how old exactly, it's still argued), so that's also a possible issue.


Except that's not true. In the general population 90% of choldren abused are females. 90%. Young boys just get more attention in the media for whatever reason. The fact that it's 80% boys in the catholic church is VERY odd.