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rafichamp on 10 April 2010

WRPGS are getting there, but with games like XIII, I dont think it will reach JRPG status.



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Hakker_nl on 10 April 2010

Why compare 2 different genres

seriously the difference between the two are as large as comparing Half-Life 2 with Serious Sam. Both are marketed as FPS games yet no one in their right mind would compare the two games closely. The same needs to be done between wrpg's and jrpg's just don't compare them they are totally different.



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.jayderyu on 10 April 2010

1. I don't really get what the OP is getting at?

2. Why are most people thinking this is a thread about which is better? In regards to more advanced does not mean better.

3. With the first string of replies pretty much ignoring the point of the post and jumping on that jRPG are better. Which again isn't the point. I'm getting the impression that some group is feeling defensive. If someone get's defensive there is some form of truth to it.



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Severance on 10 April 2010
Hakker_nl said:
Why compare 2 different genres

seriously the difference between the two are as large as comparing Half-Life 2 with Serious Sam. Both are marketed as FPS games yet no one in their right mind would compare the two games closely. The same needs to be done between wrpg's and jrpg's just don't compare them they are totally different.



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Darc Requiem on 10 April 2010

I've been a big JRPG fan for years but WRPG's have the edge with me this gen. I wish I get my $60 back for FFXIII. I can't believe a game in development so long had such poor pacing. It's the most monotonous game in the series and I've played ever game in the FF series. Lost Odyssey, Tales Vesperia, Demon Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, etc. walk all over FFXIII.



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toastboy44562 on 10 April 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Let me give this topic a second go:

toastboy, you said WRPGs are more advanced and are therefore better, right? You should really explain what you are referring to. I think many people did miss the point of this thread. I agree with you about WRPGs, I like them more. But you should probably be specific.


When I said those things, I meant that a WRPG is better at telling a story, it doesn't go to a cutscene like a JRPG, you play the story. WRPGs are open world,  gives you things to do once the game is finished and is generally better tech. A WRPG id basically an open world JRPG with better controls and more replayablity



toastboy44562 on 10 April 2010
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Let me give this topic a second go:

toastboy, you said WRPGs are more advanced and are therefore better, right? You should really explain what you are referring to. I think many people did miss the point of this thread. I agree with you about WRPGs, I like them more. But you should probably be specific.


When I said those things, I meant that a WRPG is better at telling a story, it doesn't go to a cutscene like a JRPG, you play the story. WRPGs are open world,  gives you things to do once the game is finished and is generally better tech. A WRPG id basically an open world JRPG with better controls and more replayablity

Eh.....some of those are still pretty subjective though:

- Better tech? Again, you'd have to be more specific.

- Better controls? Depends on the player.

- The cutscenes bit seem to be more a style choice rather than a flaw. Then again, that's just me.


by better tech I mean better textures and more enemies on screen on once (Not a cutscene)

 

by better controls I mean simpler, I hate scrolling through a bunch of moves in jrpgs. in wrpgs all i have to do is hit on button

 

I like consistancy, I hate average looking games with amazing cutscenes



burning_phoneix on 10 April 2010

There should be a rule to never discuss WRPGs VS JRPGs ever again. How many times have we seen this discussion lead to nothing?

Solution - have no towns in JRPg's!!!




toastboy44562 on 10 April 2010
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Let me give this topic a second go:

toastboy, you said WRPGs are more advanced and are therefore better, right? You should really explain what you are referring to. I think many people did miss the point of this thread. I agree with you about WRPGs, I like them more. But you should probably be specific.


When I said those things, I meant that a WRPG is better at telling a story, it doesn't go to a cutscene like a JRPG, you play the story. WRPGs are open world,  gives you things to do once the game is finished and is generally better tech. A WRPG id basically an open world JRPG with better controls and more replayablity

Eh.....some of those are still pretty subjective though:

- Better tech? Again, you'd have to be more specific.

- Better controls? Depends on the player.

- The cutscenes bit seem to be more a style choice rather than a flaw. Then again, that's just me.


by better tech I mean better textures and more enemies on screen on once (Not a cutscene)

 

by better controls I mean simpler, I hate scrolling through a bunch of moves in jrpgs. in wrpgs all i have to do is hit on button

 

I like consistancy, I hate average looking games with amazing cutscenes

Most of that still fits perfectly into a subjective opinion. The tech stuff (particuarly more enemies) is probably just a preference. Still doesn't determine which is "more advanced, better, etc, etc....". We'd need to know what all goes into creating these titles.


more work and better tech=more enemies on screen

less work and worse tech=less enemies on screen

I don't see what is the confusion...

Also, they couldn't even bring towns in FF13 (Probably best jrpg), and if you look into and wrpg these days theres town everywhere



toastboy44562 on 10 April 2010
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
toastboy44562 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Let me give this topic a second go:

toastboy, you said WRPGs are more advanced and are therefore better, right? You should really explain what you are referring to. I think many people did miss the point of this thread. I agree with you about WRPGs, I like them more. But you should probably be specific.


When I said those things, I meant that a WRPG is better at telling a story, it doesn't go to a cutscene like a JRPG, you play the story. WRPGs are open world,  gives you things to do once the game is finished and is generally better tech. A WRPG id basically an open world JRPG with better controls and more replayablity

Eh.....some of those are still pretty subjective though:

- Better tech? Again, you'd have to be more specific.

- Better controls? Depends on the player.

- The cutscenes bit seem to be more a style choice rather than a flaw. Then again, that's just me.


by better tech I mean better textures and more enemies on screen on once (Not a cutscene)

 

by better controls I mean simpler, I hate scrolling through a bunch of moves in jrpgs. in wrpgs all i have to do is hit on button

 

I like consistancy, I hate average looking games with amazing cutscenes

Most of that still fits perfectly into a subjective opinion. The tech stuff (particuarly more enemies) is probably just a preference. Still doesn't determine which is "more advanced, better, etc, etc....". We'd need to know what all goes into creating these titles.


more work and better tech=more enemies on screen - not necessarily

less work and worse tech=less enemies on screen - again, not necessarily

I don't see what is the confusion...

Also, they couldn't even bring towns in FF13 (Probably best jrpg), and if you look into and wrpg these days theres town everywhere - One thing has nothing to do with the other. Just because towns are missing in XIII, doesn't mean they can't be done in future JRPGs.

My take.


yes, they could have put towns in FF13, but how many years would that have taken them?

If you look at fable 3 (Which is being made in 2 years), im sure it has town in almost every single map (Not dungens). Also, fable 3 has better textures from videos i've seen and it has co-op, and they said it has more to do once you finish the game. imo, FF13 quality doesn't even touch mass effect 2/fable 2 quality. but thats just my opinion and everyone has their own i guess...