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highwaystar101 said:
nightsurge said:

You are wrong on oh so many counts.

1) Last pandemic of swine flu was the spanish flu. 50-100 Million were killed by that one. Yeah, it posed no threat.

And that was in a time when medicine was no where near as advanced and human immune systems were much weaker.

2) Like the Spanish flu this flu was notable for not only infecting the weak, it also infected those with strong immune systems.

Yet when Swine Flu infected anyone of normal/strong immune system, it acted just the same as the normal flu.  This is fact.

3) If a flu mutates so that it becomes more dangerous it does not neccesarily make the vaccine useless.

This is true, but you never really know either way what the old vaccine would do.  It may have adverse affects rather than good ones.

4) It was a fucking pandemic, those things only occur about once in every 30 years. The World Health Organisation doesn't yell pandemic just to get people to take shots.

It wasn't a pandemic though.  That's why it was blown way out of proportion.  I understand how pandemics can be dangerous, but in order for it to be a pandemic, doesn't it have to be worse than the normal seasonal flu death rate by a large extent?  The Swine Flu wasn't.  And yes, the World Health Organization as well as governments in general love to yell pandemic to have people spend more money.  Sad part is it works.

 

@highway. Didn't know thunderfoot had a swine flu video. o.O

 

The swine flu had the potential to be a huge disaster, it still does actually. All it takes is a little bit of mutation and people will be popping their clogs all over the world.

The Swine Flu itself occured back in the 1980's I believe (may have been 70's) to the same government and media enduced panic.  It had a very low death rate, and the result of the vaccine was that many people were permanently damaged/handicapped by adverse affects or even killed by the vaccine.  As many as 30,000 people.

I think you will find that it was a pandemic, in fact here is the press release from the WHO stating that it was upgraded to pandemic. In fact it was a level 6 pandemic, the highest level of risk a pandemic can reach.

There is no natural immunity to Swine flu in humans, if you come into contact with it, it is very likely you will get infected (in other words it spreads like wild fire, so you certainly don't want it to mutate otherwise you are looking at a death toll well in to the tens of millions).

Let me use a (quasi) analogy. It is like when Spanish explorers travelled to south America and disease suddenly killed most of the natives. The reason was that the Spanish had introduced European diseases that the natives had never encountered before and so they had no natural immunity. What was a harmless disease to the Spanish wiped out whole civilisations because their immune system weren't capable of handling the new disease and so it spread like wild fire throughout them.

Swine flu is just the same, except the whole Earth doesn't have a natural immunity. If swine flu mutated so it could kill people then we would be looking at a death toll the like have never been seen before. You can understand why governments wanted to try and prevent this.

Now you know I'm the first person to call out media hype, and yes swine flu was used by the media to sell papers. However, the threat from Swine flu was very real, even when you discount media hype.

I refer you to the video I posted.

That's BS. OLD people were resistant to the Swine Flu because it had been out before and some people have super strong immune systems and never get sick. 



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gurglesletch said:

I think you will find that it was a pandemic, in fact here is the press release from the WHO stating that it was upgraded to pandemic. In fact it was a level 6 pandemic, the highest level of risk a pandemic can reach.

There is no natural immunity to Swine flu in humans, if you come into contact with it, it is very likely you will get infected (in other words it spreads like wild fire, so you certainly don't want it to mutate otherwise you are looking at a death toll well in to the tens of millions).

 

That's BS. OLD people were resistant to the Swine Flu because it had been out before and some people have super strong immune systems and never get sick. 

"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says this strain is so different from existing human flu viruses that most people have no immunity to it"

Source



^most =/= all. But now he's just arguing semantics. I guess in my eyes I will never view this as serious enough to be labeled a pandemic. But that's just my personal opinion. I do understand the purpose of the vaccine is to keep it from possibly mutating, but again, in this economy, I don't see spending that much money on "chance" to be a good thing.

I don't mean to sound completely morbid, but if the Swine Flu ever took off, it would probably be quite beneficial to the world if it eliminated 10% of the population. That would solve so many unemployment issues. Just like WW2 brought us out of depression with the death of millions of working age men. Free'd up a lot of jobs and bolstered the economy by creating war related jobs too.

Yes, that's extremely off topic. I'm just bored.



mirgro said:
I think we can never rule out AIDS. The constant danger of it wiping out the human race with it is always there.

Actually, 10% of Europeans are immune to HIV and AIDS. So I suppose it could nearly kill us all, but some would live.



DaHuuuuuudge said:
mirgro said:
I think we can never rule out AIDS. The constant danger of it wiping out the human race with it is always there.

Actually, 10% of Europeans are immune to HIV and AIDS. So I suppose it could nearly kill us all, but some would live.

I don't think they are immune, just resistant.



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mirgro said:
DaHuuuuuudge said:
mirgro said:
I think we can never rule out AIDS. The constant danger of it wiping out the human race with it is always there.

Actually, 10% of Europeans are immune to HIV and AIDS. So I suppose it could nearly kill us all, but some would live.

I don't think they are immune, just resistant.

They are actually immune. Their cells lack the receptors that the HIV attatch to. It ties in with the theory of natural selection, as the black death attaches to the same receptors. So those who did not have them did not die (from the black death) and were able to pass this (the immunity) on to their offspring. May the best man win!



halogamer1989 said:
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I agree.

 



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