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CrazzyMan on 24 November 2007

1. If the Wii doesn't appeal to 'gamers' why is it that 90% Wii owners are hardcore (% taken from Reggie at E3)? And another reason is the GAMES.
what most sold games are on Wii? =))
2. Name me them.
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet
Uncharted
FFXIII
GT5
MGS4
KZ2
Resistance2
Motorstorm2
Tekken6
Warhawk

LBP
Getaway3
Heavy Rain
WKS
Disgaea3
Wardevil
Infamous
8days
Gow3
Jak
NGS

Maybe some of these games don`t appeal to you, half of them to be proven yet, but after HS, Ratchet and Uncharted i am confident in 1st/2nd party party games on PS3. Lair - it`s atleast a RENT, becase some people are fine with controls, some not.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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leo-j on 24 November 2007
Soriku said:
CrazzyMan said:
then why is wii on top

1) FOR HOW LONG?
Japan? and SMG sales in Japan?

few reasons:
CHEAP.
NEW CONTROLS.
APPEALING TO CASUALS, NOT GAMERS.

2) By the end of 2008, there will over 20 MUST PLAY games on PS3.

3) Soriku - HAVE YOU SEEN THIS - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/ ?

 

1. If the Wii doesn't appeal to 'gamers' why is it that 90% Wii owners are hardcore (% taken from Reggie at E3)? And another reason is the GAMES. 2. Name me them. 3. PS Eye > Wii. I know. *wink*

There are 2 games out for the ps eye since its new and they're expecting 10 more by the end of the year. The ps eye is much more innovative than the wii. Thats a fact.

 



 

mM
misterd on 24 November 2007

lf by turn things around you mean it will compete for 1st or in any way bring them back to the PS1/PS2 glory days,then no. lf you mean will it continueto improve sales & make the PS3 respectable, then sure.



endurance on 24 November 2007
CrazzyMan said:
then why is wii on top

1) FOR HOW LONG?
Japan? and SMG sales in Japan?

few reasons:
CHEAP.
NEW CONTROLS.
APPEALING TO CASUALS, NOT GAMERS.

2) By the end of 2008, there will over 20 MUST PLAY games on PS3.

3) Soriku - HAVE YOU SEEN THIS - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/ ?

and wii doesnt appeal to gamers because?



CrazzyMan on 24 November 2007
Lost tears of Kain said:
CrazzyMan said:
routsounmanman said:
CrazzyMan said:
what did Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Resident Evil, etc do for Gamecube?
Mario, Zelda, Metroid - these are pure nintendo game. And N64 with CG sales were poor, while both psOne and ps2 sales were over 100 mln. Much More people played MGS, FF, GT games. That`s why these games will improve sales a lot.

More people played MGS, FF and GT than Mario, Zelda and Metroid??? Just ignorant.


LOL. You probably think, that MOST gamers are around 30 years old? =))

Come on, MOST gamers OF THIS CONSOLE GENERATION, which started to play games in 1996-1997 when PSOne came were only 8-10 years old. Now after 10-12 years, they are atleast 18-20 years old. They grown up on PLAYSTATION games. Nintendo BRAND was WEAK all this last 10 years.

your so danm ignorant its not even funny.

Im 17 years old, most likely the average age of gamers, and ill tell you right now mario and zelda have so much more influence to video games and are more system sellers then anything sony can produce

 

Your ignorance is unbelievable.

 


LOL. You are just ONE marioboy.

Mario games:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Mario Kart: Double Dash Nintendo0.893.851.866.60
Super Mario Sunshine Nintendo0.873.731.315.91
Mario Party 4 Nintendo0.921.130.392.44
Mario Party 5 Nintendo0.730.960.362.05
Paper Mario 2 Nintendo0.461.230.261.95
Super Mario Strikers Nintendo0.210.940.421.57
Mario Party 6 Nintendo0.600.850.111.56
Mario Party 7 Nintendo0.470.900.111.48
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour Nintendo0.251.030.151.43
Mario Power Tennis Nintendo0.460.540.151.15

Gran Turismo:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec Sony1.897.135.8514.87
Gran Turismo 4 Sony1.162.635.008.79
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo N/A0.430.001.131.56
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue Sony0.790.000.571.36

Zelda:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Nintendo0.892.441.054.38
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo0.040.950.341.33
Totals (2 matches) 0.9 3.4 1.4 5.7

Final Fantasy:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Final Fantasy X Square EA3.022.742.197.95
Final Fantasy X-2 Square Enix2.411.820.985.21
Final Fantasy XII Square Enix2.421.690.844.95

Metroid Prime:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Metroid Prime Nintendo0.121.920.732.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Nintendo0.070.830.371.27

Metal Gear Solid:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Konami0.852.292.425.56
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami0.861.421.683.96

 



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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leo-j on 24 November 2007
endurance said:
CrazzyMan said:
then why is wii on top

1) FOR HOW LONG?
Japan? and SMG sales in Japan?

few reasons:
CHEAP.
NEW CONTROLS.
APPEALING TO CASUALS, NOT GAMERS.

2) By the end of 2008, there will over 20 MUST PLAY games on PS3.

3) Soriku - HAVE YOU SEEN THIS - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/ ?

and wii doesnt appeal to gamers because?


I think what he was trying to say was, that it doesnt appeal to the hadcore crowd that want hardcore shooters, online, and nice graphics.

It mainly appeals to the casual. You guys are hardcore ninty fans so you dont count.



 

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Antonio on 24 November 2007
leo-j said:
Soriku said:
CrazzyMan said:
then why is wii on top

1) FOR HOW LONG?
Japan? and SMG sales in Japan?

few reasons:
CHEAP.
NEW CONTROLS.
APPEALING TO CASUALS, NOT GAMERS.

2) By the end of 2008, there will over 20 MUST PLAY games on PS3.

3) Soriku - HAVE YOU SEEN THIS - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/ ?

 

1. If the Wii doesn't appeal to 'gamers' why is it that 90% Wii owners are hardcore (% taken from Reggie at E3)? And another reason is the GAMES. 2. Name me them. 3. PS Eye > Wii. I know. *wink*

There are 2 games out for the ps eye since its new and they're expecting 10 more by the end of the year. The ps eye is much more innovative than the wii. Thats a fact.

 


 Dude your really funny...That the PS eye is more innovative than the Wii....you just want to start trouble.....lol



endurance on 24 November 2007
CrazzyMan said:
1. If the Wii doesn't appeal to 'gamers' why is it that 90% Wii owners are hardcore (% taken from Reggie at E3)? And another reason is the GAMES.
what most sold games are on Wii? =))
2. Name me them.
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet
Uncharted
FFXIII
GT5
MGS4
KZ2
Resistance2
Motorstorm2
Tekken6
Warhawk

LBP
Getaway3
Heavy Rain
WKS
Disgaea3
Wardevil
Infamous
8days
Gow3
Jak
NGS

Maybe some of these games don`t appeal to you, half of them to be proven yet, but after HS, Ratchet and Uncharted i am confident in 1st/2nd party party games on PS3. Lair - it`s atleast a RENT, becase some people are fine with controls, some not.

the top seller is wii sports,a game that even the traditional gamers like



Lost tears of Kain on 24 November 2007
carlos710 said:
To libellule:

lol, you are pwning Lost tears of kain.

To Lost tears of kain:
Don't get agressive just because you don't know what to say. Seems like once you reach that point your only argument is "fuck you, you are a silly fanboy". Perhaps the fanboy is another person.

on topic:

No, those games won't "turn things around"
FF13 is not coming until 2009 at the earliest.
Killzone: a delay to 09 it's rumored. Besides, is not exactly a huge seller. Is just the kind of games that Ps3 fans like to hype, like Lair and heavenly sword, anything that looks good on videos.
MGS 4: Very good game, coming out in 08 and huge seller... however i don't think i will do a lot by itself.

The Wii still has at least 5+ huge sellers for 08. Brawl, Mario Kart, Animal crossing, Wii Fit, Wii Motorsports, Kirby wii (question mark, some Kirby games have sold 5million+, others only do 1m+, depends of the type of Kirby game we get)

Dont know what to say? Really this is coming from the guy who got his ass kicked cause all he could do was list major "rumored rpgs" for the wii. Or was trying to argue that monster hunter was bigger then FF, or new SE IP.

I told him fuck you because he called NG a hack and slash. Thats like calling mario just another platformer. Seriously go the fuck away. BTW fuck you you silly fanboy.

O look comes in with all these wii sellers while Ps3 has nothing.

Who the hell is the fanboy.



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Antonio on 24 November 2007
CrazzyMan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
CrazzyMan said:
routsounmanman said:
CrazzyMan said:
what did Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Resident Evil, etc do for Gamecube?
Mario, Zelda, Metroid - these are pure nintendo game. And N64 with CG sales were poor, while both psOne and ps2 sales were over 100 mln. Much More people played MGS, FF, GT games. That`s why these games will improve sales a lot.

More people played MGS, FF and GT than Mario, Zelda and Metroid??? Just ignorant.


LOL. You probably think, that MOST gamers are around 30 years old? =))

Come on, MOST gamers OF THIS CONSOLE GENERATION, which started to play games in 1996-1997 when PSOne came were only 8-10 years old. Now after 10-12 years, they are atleast 18-20 years old. They grown up on PLAYSTATION games. Nintendo BRAND was WEAK all this last 10 years.

your so danm ignorant its not even funny.

Im 17 years old, most likely the average age of gamers, and ill tell you right now mario and zelda have so much more influence to video games and are more system sellers then anything sony can produce

 

Your ignorance is unbelievable.

 


LOL. You are just ONE marioboy.

Mario games:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Mario Kart: Double Dash Nintendo0.893.851.866.60
Super Mario Sunshine Nintendo0.873.731.315.91
Mario Party 4 Nintendo0.921.130.392.44
Mario Party 5 Nintendo0.730.960.362.05
Paper Mario 2 Nintendo0.461.230.261.95
Super Mario Strikers Nintendo0.210.940.421.57
Mario Party 6 Nintendo0.600.850.111.56
Mario Party 7 Nintendo0.470.900.111.48
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour Nintendo0.251.030.151.43
Mario Power Tennis Nintendo0.460.540.151.15

Gran Turismo:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec Sony1.897.135.8514.87
Gran Turismo 4 Sony1.162.635.008.79
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo N/A0.430.001.131.56
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue Sony0.790.000.571.36

Zelda:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Nintendo0.892.441.054.38
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo0.040.950.341.33
Totals (2 matches) 0.9 3.4 1.4 5.7

Final Fantasy:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec Sony1.897.135.8514.87
Gran Turismo 4 Sony1.162.635.008.79
Gran Turismo Concept 2001 Tokyo N/A0.430.001.131.56
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue Sony0.790.000.571.36

Metroid Prime:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Metroid Prime Nintendo0.121.920.732.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Nintendo0.070.830.371.27

Metal Gear Solid:

Name Console Publisher Japan America Others Total
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Konami0.852.292.425.56
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami0.861.421.683.96

 


 Why did you post Gran Turismo two times?