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papflesje on 09 April 2010
mirgro said:
papflesje said:
mirgro said:
 

If you wanted to tap into the lines of others there is absolutely no reason someone should stop your phone from doing so. Maybe stop you, but not the phone. Same with the PS3.

I think you are a very confused individual because you seem to be calling me entitled when it's the companies who have a fucked up sort of mentality thinking that they are entitled to control their hardware and that it is somehow theirs after a sale. I am sorry, but no, it is not. You have some very fucked up sense of morality if you don't think so.

HAHAHAHAHA, yeah... I'll be sure to tell your family that the gun killed you, not me :p Great way to defend doing something illegal :p Blame it on the phone :p

Please tell me you are not stupid enough to actually say that. Please, I'd like to keep what little faith of humanity I have left, and you are really not helping its case.

Next time you buy a knife, how would you feel if you were not allowed to have it sharp, because it could be used to stab someone with? Next time you buy a hammer what if it had the weight of a feather, because you can easily crush someone's skull with it? Next time you buy a car, should it be allowed to move at a top speed of 5 m/h because otherwise it can kill a person easily?

Now that I have spelled it out for the people who have yet to learn reading comprehension, now for vetteman.

Yeah, I forgot to devide an extra one time by 60. That is very much the case, when you have 6 digit passwords. I hope you are well aware that PSN encryption, and even just passwords these days, tend to be a much larger than just 6 hex numbers long. I am also well aware you know just how much those 282 trillion becomes with each tacked on number, and just how much slower a PS3, or networked ones, will brute force that.

Unless SONY is full of idiots, and I am not dscoutning that possibility at all at this point, you will not be able to brute force the encryption by using any sane amount of PS3s. If they are idiots, the problem lies with their inability to have the most basic of securities on their network at which point they are still to blame.

If you want to discuss, don't revert to telling people they're stupid. That's just unnecessary.

 

To continue your analysis: If you buy a hammer, it's used to nail things into the wall. If you buy a knife, it's used to cut things with so that you may eat or something. A car is used for entertainment or to bring you somewhere. On the other hand, if you use those items to do something illegal, the manufacturer (or the law) will make sure it does whatever it can to prevent those kind of practices.

 

 

 

 



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Galaki on 09 April 2010

We first began the argument with 2 groups of people at the end of 2 spectrums.
Weeks later, both groups still are at where they started.

We aren't going anywhere with nobody listening to opposing arguments.



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jneul on 09 April 2010

I am sorry guys, but his intentions were malicious from the start it does not matter what Sony did, he would have done custom firmware eventually, please do not use this, goodness knows what it will bring to PS3, if you like spyware and viruses and getting personal information stolen, go for it.



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mirgro on 09 April 2010
papflesje said:
mirgro said:
papflesje said:
mirgro said:
 

If you wanted to tap into the lines of others there is absolutely no reason someone should stop your phone from doing so. Maybe stop you, but not the phone. Same with the PS3.

I think you are a very confused individual because you seem to be calling me entitled when it's the companies who have a fucked up sort of mentality thinking that they are entitled to control their hardware and that it is somehow theirs after a sale. I am sorry, but no, it is not. You have some very fucked up sense of morality if you don't think so.

HAHAHAHAHA, yeah... I'll be sure to tell your family that the gun killed you, not me :p Great way to defend doing something illegal :p Blame it on the phone :p

Please tell me you are not stupid enough to actually say that. Please, I'd like to keep what little faith of humanity I have left, and you are really not helping its case.

Next time you buy a knife, how would you feel if you were not allowed to have it sharp, because it could be used to stab someone with? Next time you buy a hammer what if it had the weight of a feather, because you can easily crush someone's skull with it? Next time you buy a car, should it be allowed to move at a top speed of 5 m/h because otherwise it can kill a person easily?

Now that I have spelled it out for the people who have yet to learn reading comprehension, now for vetteman.

Yeah, I forgot to devide an extra one time by 60. That is very much the case, when you have 6 digit passwords. I hope you are well aware that PSN encryption, and even just passwords these days, tend to be a much larger than just 6 hex numbers long. I am also well aware you know just how much those 282 trillion becomes with each tacked on number, and just how much slower a PS3, or networked ones, will brute force that.

Unless SONY is full of idiots, and I am not dscoutning that possibility at all at this point, you will not be able to brute force the encryption by using any sane amount of PS3s. If they are idiots, the problem lies with their inability to have the most basic of securities on their network at which point they are still to blame.

If you want to discuss, don't revert to telling people they're stupid. That's just unnecessary.

 

To continue your analysis: If you buy a hammer, it's used to nail things into the wall. If you buy a knife, it's used to cut things with so that you may eat or something. A car is used for entertainment or to bring you somewhere. On the other hand, if you use those items to do something illegal, the manufacturer (or the law) will make sure it does whatever it can to prevent those kind of practices.

 

 

 

 

Kind of har not to, when you are still not comprehending.

Tell me, even if the knives can kill people, what did the manufacturers do to stop them from doing so? What about the cars? In fact they go even faster with time. It's not up to the manufacturer to decide what I can and cannot do with my hardware, it'd up to the law. So when you give me a PS3, I would love to have it as open as possible. Anthing that enables me to do so is not a bad thing.



xrobx on 09 April 2010

i'm with the hacker. sony illegally removed my feature that they advertised and i paid for and he's fighting to help us all reclaim our stolen property. so more power to him.



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AngelosL on 09 April 2010

Whatever sony did,this guy's wrong.I don't want my ps3 hacked and full of viruses



Random Canadian on 09 April 2010
mirgro said:
papflesje said:
mirgro said:
papflesje said:
mirgro said:
 

If you wanted to tap into the lines of others there is absolutely no reason someone should stop your phone from doing so. Maybe stop you, but not the phone. Same with the PS3.

I think you are a very confused individual because you seem to be calling me entitled when it's the companies who have a fucked up sort of mentality thinking that they are entitled to control their hardware and that it is somehow theirs after a sale. I am sorry, but no, it is not. You have some very fucked up sense of morality if you don't think so.

HAHAHAHAHA, yeah... I'll be sure to tell your family that the gun killed you, not me :p Great way to defend doing something illegal :p Blame it on the phone :p

Please tell me you are not stupid enough to actually say that. Please, I'd like to keep what little faith of humanity I have left, and you are really not helping its case.

Next time you buy a knife, how would you feel if you were not allowed to have it sharp, because it could be used to stab someone with? Next time you buy a hammer what if it had the weight of a feather, because you can easily crush someone's skull with it? Next time you buy a car, should it be allowed to move at a top speed of 5 m/h because otherwise it can kill a person easily?

Now that I have spelled it out for the people who have yet to learn reading comprehension, now for vetteman.

Yeah, I forgot to devide an extra one time by 60. That is very much the case, when you have 6 digit passwords. I hope you are well aware that PSN encryption, and even just passwords these days, tend to be a much larger than just 6 hex numbers long. I am also well aware you know just how much those 282 trillion becomes with each tacked on number, and just how much slower a PS3, or networked ones, will brute force that.

Unless SONY is full of idiots, and I am not dscoutning that possibility at all at this point, you will not be able to brute force the encryption by using any sane amount of PS3s. If they are idiots, the problem lies with their inability to have the most basic of securities on their network at which point they are still to blame.

If you want to discuss, don't revert to telling people they're stupid. That's just unnecessary.

 

To continue your analysis: If you buy a hammer, it's used to nail things into the wall. If you buy a knife, it's used to cut things with so that you may eat or something. A car is used for entertainment or to bring you somewhere. On the other hand, if you use those items to do something illegal, the manufacturer (or the law) will make sure it does whatever it can to prevent those kind of practices.

 

 

 

 

Kind of har not to, when you are still not comprehending.

Tell me, even if the knives can kill people, what did the manufacturers do to stop them from doing so? What about the cars? In fact they go even faster with time. It's not up to the manufacturer to decide what I can and cannot do with my hardware, it'd up to the law. So when you give me a PS3, I would love to have it as open as possible. Anthing that enables me to do so is not a bad thing.

Duno about where you live but here in Canada most modern vehicles are governed at about 155-160 KPH,  so no they dont go faster with time they are detuned and regulated for safety.

 

Wow still this many people bitching about their right to have other OS when 90% of them dont even use it.  I wonder how  many of these people would still be crying ( like little girls I might add ) if Geo had announced a XMB workaround for ISO loading around the time sony said they are blocking otherOS.

My guess is not many.



Vetteman94 on 09 April 2010
xrobx said:
i'm with the hacker. sony illegally removed my feature that they advertised and i paid for and he's fighting to help us all reclaim our stolen property. so more power to him.

You could have kept it,  you just wouldnt have access to a feature that you didnt pay for



Damnyouall on 09 April 2010

A feature we didn't pay for like playing future games and Blu Rays?



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Kenoid on 09 April 2010

Man, this guy just won't give up.
Just buy a different type of console



                                  

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