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KingFate said:
joeorc said:
KingFate said:
steverhcp02 said:
 

 

PSN's security which is not something he own's. which is a bannable offense.

 

That boreders on a LEGAL offense. I disagree with what he is doing/has done. Just let all the dice fall before we go for the throat of anyone right now.

it's not because were going for the throat at all, I am just saying everytime you get a firmware update there is a TOS agreement posted with the update before you install, if you install you agree to the term's. and one of the big no no's is trying to break the security and encryption of the PSN.

since Geohot has not decided to choose to agree to updated 3.21 which in the video he did! he just decided to ignore those term's of service.

if you try it's a bannable offense for PSN. so his PUP file trick he know's would not be good enough to stop Sony from banning his system, that's why he has not released it yet. but the problem is just like what Microsoft did with modded xbox360's the same is most likely going to happen to those that tempt fate with this , i would be very careful with something like this Geohot know's this, someone does it but not go on PSN i doubt there would be a problem but as soon as they try, they may find themselves with a bricked PS3 due to incompatability security patch trying to patch your PS3 while accessing the PSN.

just sayin that  may happen. not saying it will but , i would not be suprised to see it happen.



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why Do some of you support This Guy? piracy = Hurt Sales = Hurt Developers = Less games = Dead console = Hurt Gamers. I love how a Few have To ruin it For Everyone...Dont want to pay for games? Don't Play them.



Been a couple months since this kid has been claiming hacks on the PS3, yet we still fail to see pirated games.

What a complete douchebag, this kid should go see the light of the day, it might keep him away from his machines for a while.

I doubt we'll see any pirated games on the PS3.



you know what I find funny, all these people that say sony shot them selves in the foot, and who actually back Geohot for what's he's doing.

But what do people expect Sony to do when someone comes out claiming they've hacked the PS3?

At the end of the day, the reason that sony patched out the "other OS" was because of Geohot, if Sony PS3 wasn't compromised, then Sony would have no reason to remove the other OS feature.

Everyone who is angry with the loss of "other OS" should turn their hatred to Geohot and no one esle.



joeorc said:
mirgro said:

I think that the PS3 hardware should have been open from the beginning, if anything this guy provided a service. Hell, the game hackers are a far darker shade of gray and I support some of the things they do, mainly conveinience and the no-bullshit releases they have. If companies didn't act like they owned the hardware after a sale, then maybe all this shit wouldn't be happenig in the first place.

god. how did sony act like they owned your hardware?

don'rt you even think this is not about your hardware it's about protecting PSN!

WHEN GEOHOT DID HIS HACK he knew that it could be used to bypass PSN PROTECTION AND ENCRYPTION

thus it could also be used as a vector into people's personal information or hack someone's account or worse steal credit card info.

but that's alright because Geohot is just hacking the PS3 HARDWARE right?.

He did know what would have happened if he released his hack to the internet.

so it's alright for anyone to come into PSN and take what they want even your Info, but is somehow Sony's fault for trying to protect consumer's from theft?

 

Wait, so your whole argument rests on the case that the PS3 can be used to hack other PS3s? Can you show me a proof of concept of this please? Because to steal information not only do you have to bypass your own encryption, but also the remote host's encryption, which I haven't seen anyone d yet.



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mirgro said:
joeorc said:
mirgro said:
 

I think that the PS3 hardware should have been open from the beginning, if anything this guy provided a service. Hell, the game hackers are a far darker shade of gray and I support some of the things they do, mainly conveinience and the no-bullshit releases they have. If companies didn't act like they owned the hardware after a sale, then maybe all this shit wouldn't be happenig in the first place.

god. how did sony act like they owned your hardware?

don'rt you even think this is not about your hardware it's about protecting PSN!

WHEN GEOHOT DID HIS HACK he knew that it could be used to bypass PSN PROTECTION AND ENCRYPTION

thus it could also be used as a vector into people's personal information or hack someone's account or worse steal credit card info.

but that's alright because Geohot is just hacking the PS3 HARDWARE right?.

He did know what would have happened if he released his hack to the internet.

so it's alright for anyone to come into PSN and take what they want even your Info, but is somehow Sony's fault for trying to protect consumer's from theft?

 

Wait, so your whole argument rests on the case that the PS3 can be used to hack other PS3s? Can you show me a proof of concept of this please? Because to steal information not only do you have to bypass your own encryption, but also the remote host's encryption, which I haven't seen anyone d yet.

you so kmnow the PS3's are very good at breaking encryption!  as a matter of fact they were used to break the internet's verisign MD5 encryption, yet it was 200 of them linked but since each and every ps3 is capable of

Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second

its not my whole argument.think about this for a sec..you know the answer the PS3 is one d@mn good crypto machine

and to give a little taste what just one can do:

PS3s used to capture child pornographers

US' Cyber Crimes Center begins using console's processing power to crack passwords on suspected sexual predators' protected files.

The report notes that while law enforcement agents can execute a warrant to secure the physical computers, the Fourth Amendment protects suspected predators from surrendering passwords and other encryption material. As such, the agency attempts to crack the passwords by using a program that tries all possible key combinations. The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

Davenport went on to note that while other gaming consoles could technically also accomplish the task, the agency also needs to install software using the open-source operating system Linux. However, C3 must use pre-PS3 Slim units, as new restrictions introduced with the latest iteration of the console prevent the agency from installing the open-source operating system.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6240562.html

 

Why do you think Sony want's no Linux enabled PS3's accessing PSN after the Geohot hack.



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ps:

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Thank you for that big signature joeorc (or is it BOLO?), it makes it easier to see where your posts (aka copy-pasted text walls) end so we can just scroll past them.



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joeorc said:
mirgro said:
joeorc said:
mirgro said:
 

I think that the PS3 hardware should have been open from the beginning, if anything this guy provided a service. Hell, the game hackers are a far darker shade of gray and I support some of the things they do, mainly conveinience and the no-bullshit releases they have. If companies didn't act like they owned the hardware after a sale, then maybe all this shit wouldn't be happenig in the first place.

god. how did sony act like they owned your hardware?

don'rt you even think this is not about your hardware it's about protecting PSN!

WHEN GEOHOT DID HIS HACK he knew that it could be used to bypass PSN PROTECTION AND ENCRYPTION

thus it could also be used as a vector into people's personal information or hack someone's account or worse steal credit card info.

but that's alright because Geohot is just hacking the PS3 HARDWARE right?.

He did know what would have happened if he released his hack to the internet.

so it's alright for anyone to come into PSN and take what they want even your Info, but is somehow Sony's fault for trying to protect consumer's from theft?

 

Wait, so your whole argument rests on the case that the PS3 can be used to hack other PS3s? Can you show me a proof of concept of this please? Because to steal information not only do you have to bypass your own encryption, but also the remote host's encryption, which I haven't seen anyone d yet.

you so kmnow the PS3's are very good at breaking encryption!  as a matter of fact they were used to break the internet's verisign MD5 encryption, yet it was 200 of them linked but since each and every ps3 is capable of

Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second

its not my whole argument.think about this for a sec..you know the answer the PS3 is one d@mn good crypto machine

and to give a little taste what just one can do:

PS3s used to capture child pornographers

US' Cyber Crimes Center begins using console's processing power to crack passwords on suspected sexual predators' protected files.

The report notes that while law enforcement agents can execute a warrant to secure the physical computers, the Fourth Amendment protects suspected predators from surrendering passwords and other encryption material. As such, the agency attempts to crack the passwords by using a program that tries all possible key combinations. The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

Davenport went on to note that while other gaming consoles could technically also accomplish the task, the agency also needs to install software using the open-source operating system Linux. However, C3 must use pre-PS3 Slim units, as new restrictions introduced with the latest iteration of the console prevent the agency from installing the open-source operating system.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6240562.html

 

Why do you think Sony want's no Linux enabled PS3's accessing PSN after the Geohot hack.

I don not think you know how to read. The networked PS3s are able to do 4 million, not each individual one.



Damnyouall said:

Thank you for that big signature joeorc (or is it BOLO?), it makes it easier to see where your posts end so we can just scroll past them.

well it's good your so closed minded , that way people have less of a reason to take you seriously.

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

mirgro said:
joeorc said:
mirgro said:
joeorc said:
mirgro said:
 

I think that the PS3 hardware should have been open from the beginning, if anything this guy provided a service. Hell, the game hackers are a far darker shade of gray and I support some of the things they do, mainly conveinience and the no-bullshit releases they have. If companies didn't act like they owned the hardware after a sale, then maybe all this shit wouldn't be happenig in the first place.

god. how did sony act like they owned your hardware?

don'rt you even think this is not about your hardware it's about protecting PSN!

WHEN GEOHOT DID HIS HACK he knew that it could be used to bypass PSN PROTECTION AND ENCRYPTION

thus it could also be used as a vector into people's personal information or hack someone's account or worse steal credit card info.

but that's alright because Geohot is just hacking the PS3 HARDWARE right?.

He did know what would have happened if he released his hack to the internet.

so it's alright for anyone to come into PSN and take what they want even your Info, but is somehow Sony's fault for trying to protect consumer's from theft?

 

Wait, so your whole argument rests on the case that the PS3 can be used to hack other PS3s? Can you show me a proof of concept of this please? Because to steal information not only do you have to bypass your own encryption, but also the remote host's encryption, which I haven't seen anyone d yet.

you so kmnow the PS3's are very good at breaking encryption!  as a matter of fact they were used to break the internet's verisign MD5 encryption, yet it was 200 of them linked but since each and every ps3 is capable of

Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second

its not my whole argument.think about this for a sec..you know the answer the PS3 is one d@mn good crypto machine

and to give a little taste what just one can do:

PS3s used to capture child pornographers

US' Cyber Crimes Center begins using console's processing power to crack passwords on suspected sexual predators' protected files.

The report notes that while law enforcement agents can execute a warrant to secure the physical computers, the Fourth Amendment protects suspected predators from surrendering passwords and other encryption material. As such, the agency attempts to crack the passwords by using a program that tries all possible key combinations. The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

Davenport went on to note that while other gaming consoles could technically also accomplish the task, the agency also needs to install software using the open-source operating system Linux. However, C3 must use pre-PS3 Slim units, as new restrictions introduced with the latest iteration of the console prevent the agency from installing the open-source operating system.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6240562.html

 

Why do you think Sony want's no Linux enabled PS3's accessing PSN after the Geohot hack.

I don not think you know how to read. The networked PS3s are able to do 4 million, not each individual one.

yes I know how to read:

slashdot-

"It seems that the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, known as C3, has replaced its '$8,000 Tableau/Dell server combination' with more efficient and much cheaper $300 PS3s. Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second, and C3 currently has 20 PS3s with plans to buy 40 more. Naturally this is only being used to break encryption on computers seized with a warrant and suspected of harboring child pornography."

The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

it's single buddy they are talking about Each PS3.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.