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psrock on 06 April 2010
kowenicki said:
psrock said:
The issue is quite complicated though, and it bothers both K and MikeB


A. Vgchatz had PS3 doing amazing numbers during the Holidays.
B. Sony reports 33 million sold to retailers.
C. Nintendo report shows a lesser amount of PS3 sold in Others area.
D. Vgchartz adjust PS3 by more than a million which put 3 MILLION PS3 in retails.
E. PS3 fans go crazy.
F. PS3 is in short supply despite having millions out there according to our numbers.
G. There must be something wrong with the way Sony reports these figures then, NPD, Japan and Others numbers don't match up.

One thing is clear, there isn't that many PS3 out there which confuses me a little and question both Sony and Vgchartz, it still remains to be seen if Sony counts all manufacturing PS3 into the sold numbers.


EXACTLY!  THANK YOU!

now why cant mikeb just say this?

I acknowledge this totally... and it is why I have my explanation.   I dont see why I get shit for stating exactly what you have just said.

what is mikeb's explanation? He will of course say it is undertracked.  My respones is what? by every single tracking agency on the planet?

damn, we agree on something.

To those who say the PS3 is undertrack, my question to you guys is

Where ?



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Vetteman94 on 06 April 2010

@ MikeB

I gotta side with Kowenicki on this one, you need to provide sources for your claims otherwise stop with the BS. At first I thought he only got on you because you were a PS3 fan and he was a 360 Fan, but thats not the case anymore. You are kind of annoying the way you dance around what you are really trying to say instead of just coming out and saying it.

Your graph means nothing, its all information that was already available on this website. And alligning launches mean something only to the side that is behind, its an otherwise worthless statistic.



MikeB on 06 April 2010

@ kowenicki

by every single tracking agency on the planet?


What do you mean by that? There are no tracking agencies that I know of which track globally.

We regularly get good data from mainly Japan, the US and the UK. Sometimes some extra GfK data (sometimes incomplete, as they don't include HDTV/PS3 bundle offers). The vast majority of the world we don't get much tracking data from if at all.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

haxxiy on 06 April 2010

I smell two biased posters in this thread, both fighting their best. What could take human beings to fight for such empty causes? An interesting research I'll propose for the psychology dudes here at uni.



 

 

 

 

 

MikeB on 06 April 2010

@ haxxiy

I hope you are not referring to me, I am not fighting but rather quietly debating. Just like I debated in the past we would see a PS3 slim by 2009 or that Blu-Ray would win the format war against HD DVD. On such accounts I have been called out to fight due to personal attacks, but IMO in hindsight they only made themselves look bad as they left no room for discussion.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

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kaneada on 06 April 2010
MikeB said:

@ kaneada

PS3:

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

XBox 360:

Sadly Microsoft does not provide this data in such a simple and clear manner online. But you can cross reference the data for each quarter from various fiscal reports.


Hardware - - - Q1 - - Q2 - - Q3 - - Q4 - - FY

FY 2006 - - - -  (-) - - 1.5 -  - 1.7 - 1.8 - - 5.0

FY 2007 - - - - 1.0 - - 4.4 - - 0.5 - - 0.7 - 6.6

FY 2008 - - - - 1.8 - - 4.3 - - 1.3 - - 1.3 - 8.7

FY 2009 - - - - 2.2 - - 6.0 - - 1.7 - - 1.2 - 11.1

FY 2010 - - - - 2.1 - - 5.2 - - (-) - - (-) - - 7.3


Shipped as of end of 2009 38.7 million units.

Thanks MikeB....Making sure I am reading this right Q2 lines up with holiday season fiscally?



-- Nothing is nicer than seeing your PS3 on an HDTV through an HDMI cable for the first time.

MikeB on 06 April 2010

@ kaneada

Correct. And you're welcome.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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slowmo on 06 April 2010

Don't feed him Kow, he's not worth getting banned for. This thread is stealth trolling at its finest yet the usual suspects will dive in here and conspire to get you banned if you continue trying to debate. Let his petty thread die.



slowmo on 06 April 2010
kowenicki said:
slowmo said:
Don't feed him Kow, he's not worth getting banned for. This thread is stealth trolling at its finest yet the usual suspects will dive in here and conspire to get you banned if you continue trying to debate. Let his petty thread die.


You are right... but I tell you its a disgrace that this guy is allowed to spew this crap.  He shoudl be perma-banned from here like he is elsewhere.

He spends his days dissing this site here and elsewhere. 

Probably so, guess the mods must like him, I guess he keeps them in a job.



Scruff7 on 06 April 2010

I found the OP quite interesting. Its useful to see the aligned figures in such a way.

Unfortunately I have to take shipped and sold to retail as the same thing, since there is no other explanation. Anyway, procurement rules would negate full payment of goods before delivery therefore meaning that any pre-ordered goods would not be classed as sold as otherwise manufacturing and delivery costs would have to be taken into account and therefore wouldn't help Sony's bottom line.

@Kowenicki - I can see you don't like MikeB, but your posts are bordering on insulting. I hadn't inferred from MikeB's original post that there was a discrepancy in the overall sales figures, but since you are more attuned to the ebbs and flows of the debate, you have. as a result your responses come across looking like you have a personal vendetta against MikeB which seems rather ugly. I'm sure you have a valid point but i would suggest you make it in a more compromising tone that wouldn't make others assume you were behaving like an ass.



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