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supercat said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

and this is wrong because terrorists were frustrated with some governments policies and they took it out on completely innocent people!

They should vote like a civilized person.  If they dont want tehir government dealing with the US, simply let their leaders know and be very vocal about it.  Trying to do the terrorism thing will just comeback to haunt them, and it has given Iraq and Afghanistan.

Weren't Hamas democratically elected? Kinda funny how they are as a terrorist group now.



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Kamal said:
supercat said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

and this is wrong because terrorists were frustrated with some governments policies and they took it out on completely innocent people!

They should vote like a civilized person.  If they dont want tehir government dealing with the US, simply let their leaders know and be very vocal about it.  Trying to do the terrorism thing will just comeback to haunt them, and it has given Iraq and Afghanistan.

Weren't Hamas democratically elected? Kinda funny how they are as a terrorist group now.

State terrorism, being democratically elected doesn't mean they can't commit acts of terrorism. Israel has been guilty of it in the past as well actually.



Kamal said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

Erm, do you even know what Islam stands for? This is like me deeming the principles of christianity over the cases of pedophiles working under the church.

 

Sure, it's a religion that grew out of Judaism and is primarily focused on the rituals of its faith and is the other abramic faith besides judaism and christianity.  Like every religion it has a set of ideals that its adherants are supposed to follow.  Practically, its adherants have a violent subgroup that comprise the vast majority of the worlds terrorists.  NOw i'm not saying that all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslims, sadly. 

I've read the koran, and about mohammad, i've taken an intro to islam course in college that was offered a few years after 9/11 because many people, including myself were trying to figure out why we had a new enemy that is motivated by religion and collectively identifying with the chip on its people's shoulders.                                  

 

I'm just saying we should take religion as an individual entity, why can't we see as terrorists as terrorists?

 

 


That would be nice but it's essentially naive as well.  The group feels that they need to circumvent the usual complaining and voting procedures that the western democracies use, as well as have big chips on their shoulders, the combo of which is deadly.  In short we'll use whatever identification or other classification methods if we can.  And since the majority of terrorists are muslims, then ........ we'll assume that most of them are muslim.  I dont see the harm in that kamal.



Kamal said:
supercat said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

and this is wrong because terrorists were frustrated with some governments policies and they took it out on completely innocent people!

They should vote like a civilized person.  If they dont want tehir government dealing with the US, simply let their leaders know and be very vocal about it.  Trying to do the terrorism thing will just comeback to haunt them, and it has given Iraq and Afghanistan.

Weren't Hamas democratically elected? Kinda funny how they are as a terrorist group now.


You were the one that brought up hamas, kamal.  But since you did bring it up, they are another poor group.  The muslims around the middle east send all kinds of $$$$$ over to hamas so that more people can be blown up.  They wont send soldiers for the effort, just bucks.  True friends.



supercat said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

and this is wrong because terrorists were frustrated with some governments policies and they took it out on completely innocent people!

They should vote like a civilized person.  If they dont want tehir government dealing with the US, simply let their leaders know and be very vocal about it.  Trying to do the terrorism thing will just comeback to haunt them, and it has given Iraq and Afghanistan.

erm, that's not what I meant.

Banning burqa because most of the terrorists call themselves muslims doesn't make sense, these people who take their anger out on women wearing burqa are similar to the terrorists taking out their anger on innocent people, in a less harmful way but still harmful and stupid

and I really would like to stop now and go back to the topic and discuss if burqa should be banned or not for the reasons the girl just stated :)



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supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose.......I have not the patience nor the time to tear this post apart but I will give you a hint as to what I was going to go on a rant about....Hitler was not a muslim.



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Kamal said:
supercat said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
supercat said:
Kamal said:
toastboy44562 said:
Ban burgas now! all of europe should follow with this imo

I hope this is your sick way of sarcasm, if not your just a douchebag.


Either way, Islam hasn't done a lot for itself to give it a great reputation.  Mabey people are just frustrated with the repeated terrorism plots and are taking it out on the burqa wearers.

and this is wrong because terrorists were frustrated with some governments policies and they took it out on completely innocent people!

They should vote like a civilized person.  If they dont want tehir government dealing with the US, simply let their leaders know and be very vocal about it.  Trying to do the terrorism thing will just comeback to haunt them, and it has given Iraq and Afghanistan.

Weren't Hamas democratically elected? Kinda funny how they are as a terrorist group now.

Well they were a terrorist group and THEN directly elected.

They aren't recognized as the leaders of Gaza though for a couple good reasons.

The first being... it would completly fuck over Gaza.

The rocket attacks and suicide bombings that are currently considered acts of terrorism would instead be considered acts of war.  Giving Israel a lot more free reign then they have now to retaliate.

The people of Gaza didn't elect Hamas because of the terrorist attacks but inspite of them because Hamas uses a lot of it's "funding" to help people in the area and may actually be less corrupt then the PLO... but if they ever were actually recognized... all hell would break loose.

Hamas just gives Israel more execuse to take more and more land and maybe even all of Gaza eventually.  The first step to piece is Hamas realizing they're hurting and not helping.

They seem to have realized that recently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8601171.stm



@ sad man loves vgc--Sure, it doesn't make sense, but like I said, perhaps people are getting tired of terrorists coming from one religion, and constantly requiring a high level of security primarily because of this one group. It's only natural that they start to punish that group, but if you are trying to say that banning burqa's has nothing directly to do with terrorism I agree with that.



Kasz216 said:

Well they were a terrorist group and THEN directly elected.

They aren't recognized as the leaders of Gaza though for a couple good reasons.

The first being... it would completly fuck over Gaza.

The rocket attacks and suicide bombings that are currently considered acts of terrorism would instead be considered acts of war.  Giving Israel a lot more free reign then they have now to retaliate.

The people of Gaza didn't elect Hamas because of the terrorist attacks but inspite of them because Hamas uses a lot of it's "funding" to help people in the area and may actually be less corrupt then the PLO... but if they ever were actually recognized... all hell would break loose.

Hamas just gives Israel more execuse to take more and more land and maybe even all of Gaza eventually.  The first step to piece is Hamas realizing they're hurting and not helping.

They seem to have realized that recently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8601171.stm

There is no way they could fuck over Gaza more than Gaza is being fucked over by Israel. The siege of Gaza is an atrocity. The reason they aren't recognized is because almost nobody wants the instability of a militant government in the middle east.



Are Burqas allowed in airports? That i think would help...

 

It is a cultural thing, though, because a very very long time ago the Burqa was a symbol of a free woman who could be married, or was married, whereas slave women had to walk bare, but given that slavery is over, it's one of those archaic things that lives on without especial purpose (at least in the sense of something women would *want* to wear as a status symbol)

 

Still though, there's no real reason for a societal ban. It raises the question of where certain religious practices clash with society enough to void freedom of religion concerns



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