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FaRmLaNd on 05 April 2010

But Mass effect 2 will sell over 2.5 million. Whether it can do it just on the 360 alone is the question.



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Ail on 05 April 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
GreyianStorm said:
kitler53 said:
i would suggest clicking the following link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Mass+Effect+2++-+X360[28815]&reg2=All&game2=Mass+Effect+-+X360[7635]&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=100

While that does show ME2 outselling ME1, you'll notice that it is actually now selling less per week than the original in the comparable weeks:

Week Mass Effect Mass Effect 2
1 394,757 961,290
2 271,280 268,077
3 144,359 151,848
4 136,931 83,891
5

164,229

 55,156
6 92,295 37,865
7 55,936 26,541
8 37,851 20,627
9 35,324 16,721
10 35,212 -

As you can see, ME2 has declined extremely quickly. I know sequels are generally more front loaded, but it is down almost 20k per week on the original after just 9 weeks.

ME1 came out in the holidays though.

The difference in release time probably affected sales however if you look at week 8-9 of ME1 that's end of January and definitly out of the holyday boost  so most likely Me2 will have much shorter legs than Me1.

It's kind of a pity as I believe the last 2 Bioware titles ( DA and ME2) should have gotten much better sales than they have.

One reason for Me2 average sales is probably the fact that so many games were released in the February-March period and it probably is competing with FF XIII right now...

But if things keep going like they are right now ( and there's no reason why they shoudn't) the edge ME2 currently has on ME1 at this stage will slowly go down and in the end Me2 will end up barely outselling Me1.

Me 1 sold 2.17 mill units so far.

Me2 needs 30 weeks or so at the current sales level to get there and so far Me2 sales haven't stabilized, they keep going down every week...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

ZenfoldorVGI on 05 April 2010
Gojimaster said:

I haven't played Mass Effect 2 yet, but I definitely would like to play this game in the future.  All the reviews and gameplay videos have been stellar.

That said, the reason I don't want to play Mass Effect 2 is because I haven't played Mass Effect 1.  The majority of people out there have claimed that one shouldn't play Mass Effect 2 without first playing the 1st game.  But is this statement harming Bioware's sales of Mass Effect 2?

ME2 sales have dropped like a rocket in the past few weeks, and the game is no longer in the top 50 best selling games.  ME2 is already dropped to $40 in several major retailers.  Is ME2 a completely front-loaded game that is going to be completely reliant only on the fans that bought ME1?  This is not a good predictament for BioWare.  Sequels should grow a fanbase.  Recent successful sequels include Uncharted 2, Assasins Creed 2, and Modern Warfare 2.  None of these games required someone to play the 1st game to understand the story.

 

Well, a few things.

ME2 will likely improve on sales of the first game. Your thread is wrong.

Also, unless I'm mistaken my dear Watson, Mass Effect 2's sales were immediately split out over the 360 and the PC. ME1 didn't have a PC release to split sales with for about 6 months, so of course, ME2, including PC sales, is doing monumentally better than ME1, and you just can't deny that, unless of course I'm mistaken. Care to comment?

Also, ME2 is much better than those games you've mentioned, imo, simply because it isn't a game aimed at a broader audience. The game isn't "for everyone" and it shouldn't be. If the game was "for everyone" it really would be much worse than it is. No game that is "for everyone" can be as good to its target audience as it would be if it was just for them. It's a hardcore niche title, aimed at WRPG fans of the franchise.

Another example, Radiant Dawn was a much, much better game to its target audience than any you've mentioned were to almost anyone(just ask a Radiant Dawn fan if the game was good, and grab some popcorn). However, Radiant Dawn was such a niche game that appealed to JUST one certain type of gamer, that critics panned it.

Sure, popular broad appealing games are going to get great reviews and sales. That's because they are meant to appeal to everyone. They will never have the concentrated goodness of a game that appeals just to you.

I mean, I thought Avatar was decent, and had great sales, but I sure as fuck don't want The Hurt Locker to do a sequel concentrating on 3D CGI visuals, no matter how much it would help the damn sales.

If Mass Effect sold out, as you propose they should, then they would lose the only damn fans that matter. The hardcore ones. They aren't as wishy washy and they'll probably buy Mass Effect 3, even if it's shit, simply because it didn't sell out.

You can never guarntee you'll make a good game. What you can guarntee is you won't sell out your friends to buy your future. That, my friends, is integrity.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 05 April 2010

Also, RPGs tend to be front loaded, and when the hell was 2.5m units on ONE of the two platforms you were simultaneously released on, considered average?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

mrstickball on 05 April 2010

Looking at Dragon Age: Origins, you can tell that not launching in November really hurt Mass Effect 2.



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Scoobes on 05 April 2010

aragod said:


People keep forgeting that BioWare has a large fanbase on PCs. Dragon Age Origins sold better on PC than on each console. Mass Effect 2 may not have outsold Xbox version on PC, but it will be atleast 1/2 of it's sales. So ME2 is over 2 mil likely.

 

Quoted for being logical, and most likely correct.




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Tyrannical on 06 April 2010

I'm going to wait for a greatest hits version with DLC included.



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BW_JP on 06 April 2010

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Uncharted+2:+Among+Thieves+-+PS3[28733]&reg2=All&game2=Uncharted:+Drake's+Fortune+-+PS3[12778]&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=100

Really, mass effect 2 has very bad sales.



BW_JP on 06 April 2010

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Uncharted+2:+Among+Thieves+-+PS3[28733]&reg2=All&game2=Mass+Effect+2++-+X360[28815]&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=100

sorry I meant to include this.

Everyone talks about the PS3 not being able to sell successful exclusives.
The best game hands down the 360 has, makes everything else on its platform besides ME 1 look like amataur work, look...



FaRmLaNd on 06 April 2010

Except that they're different genres and the original uncharted sold better then the original mass effect.

The wrpg genre has sold better on the 360 then the ps3. Look at Dragon Age, Oblivion, Fallout etc. They all sold better on the 360. The reality is ME2 is selling well for its genre and it was hurt mostly because of its lack of a holiday release.