I hear that the ability to play video games can be exploited so that people can play pirated games. I don't think the PS3 really needs it either.

We cannot blame them for being agressive toward piracy, but we can surely blame them for removing a feature to people that wouldnt hack anyway. Its not like hacking a PS3 is easy to hack to begin with + the slim cannot. But I agree we can also blame Geohot. Its rare I dont agree with you on your whole argument ;).

geohot's hack was a mod chip pure and simple would yopu want people with mod chipped on PSN?

The fact that Geohot knew this speak's about his character:

he hacked the Iphone because his mom's phone plan was on another carrier and the Iphone was only AT&T so instead of just letting it go

Geohot which i think has quite the little "God complex"  decided that the rules do not apply to him.

the very fact that he goes to great length's to do thing's like this mean's he care's little about who he hurts or what trouble he causes.

He is the shining example of why Hacker's like Him cause more Harm than Good.

He just opened up the platform. That's what he did. He could have let SONY know a bit ahead of time so they could patch it, if it was software, but you can't really patch up hardware. Back in the day a white had discovered a problem with TCP/IP which would have let anyone who did it literally able to take over the entire internet and anything going across it. However no one removed any features to fix it.

Hackers just prod and open closed doors. Now with hardware, that's even more true. I hate closed hardware and I think any company that does should just go burn. So I really see absolutely no problem with unlocking the PS3 fully. As I have said multiple times before, always plan on having yoru device opened no matter what. Now if someone opens up a platform, find ways to protect your hardware other than removing features because that is the lowest and most dispicable action a company can resrot to. It also angers hackers who just open things for fun, motivates them if you will, and things jsut get worse. As you can see, SONY's patch is already absolutely useless and the day isn't even through yet.

As long as there is closed systems there will be peopole who want to open them. Whether it causes harm or good it doesn't matter since it will happen.

I see what you are saying but there is no way to single out the one's that would an the one's that would'nt because what Goehot has effectivly done is allowing the Hypervisor dump and that would lead to Mod chip's for the PS3.

which is one of the thing's Sony put Linux install function in there in the first place to allow people to program Homebrew app's but to not go into the Hypervisor to allow piracy to be the main goal. when Geohot told people his IDEA about this HACK many people did not know the result's of such a hack would do. so instead of leaving well enough alone, he goes right on ahead and does it.

when even Geohot himself stated have fun with the hypervisor dump's

that's like saying not only have i unlocked the ps3 for piracy but i am now giving anyone the key who want's it.

if he would not have released his Mod chip exploit we would in all likelyhood not be having this confab,

Yes i think it's a raw deal about this but also the hacking community seem's to be going a little too far lately when it come's to quote

"backup's"

because Nintendo DS, xbox360 "backup's" are on the internet as we speak. and in the case of MW 2 having 4+ million download copies of that "Quote Backup"

How many copy's of say uncharted 3 would get that same treatment?

it's a nasty vicious cycle. the playstation 3 has some great software that many time's does not get very many sales, so Sony is doing what they can to prevent that.

the at first did not do this when the PSP got umd dump's, but they are starting right from the getgo.

it was already Open..that's why Linux was there in the first place!

"I hate closed hardware and I think any company that does should just go burn. So I really see absolutely no problem with unlocking the PS3 fully."

an see exactly that is the problem:

opening up a system to allow piracy of their property is going to happen, but when your software sales are not large on a game by game basis, than that become's a problem.

you say open up thing's for fun?

that's like saying stealing is just for fun?

it does matter to the people that invest more money to make those game's how would you feel if you seen 4+ million copy's of your game stolen?

@ the people angry about this: It's unfortunate yes, but if you TELL the people in charge "Hey guys I can break into your house and I'll show others how to do it?" They are going to invest in security.

@ the people saying it's fine: No it's not Linux is an awesome OS and it has MANY MANY MANY uses. Anyone downplaying this as a GOOD thing is misinformed.

As for me, I view it as a very sad thing that had to happen due to one person ruining it for the rest of us.

Its really not that hard, When I did the update yesterday, the system asked me 2 times , If I wanted to continue, or I could not install and still get on PSN and use all other features on the PS3, So It looks to me Sony is not making you do anything, its an opction, and if you don't , this could happen and there not responsable. Seems fair to me.

yea I 100% agree it's not Fine, Linux is awsome, but I also understand why Sony had to do it.

that I agree with, mainly if Geohot would have not released instruction's on how to make the mod chip and use the exploit i doubt very much that we would be having this confab. about this an install other option would still be included in future updates.

Beside's the same people complaining should ask for a live boot of Linux.

also BD-JAVA still work's as a homebrew platform for the PS3.

I don't know the details, but my point is that pirated games could initially use OtherOS to be allowed to run, but they wouldn't run on it, and hackers can just avoid patching and keep on working on it. The tool for easy access is still in their hands, they can use it also to comfortably study other possible holes not requiring OtherOS.