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Johann on 25 March 2010

When random people on the internet started telling me that what I liked was not good enough.



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.jayderyu on 25 March 2010
chocoloco said:

I loved final fantasy seven. It caused me to go from a Nintendo only player in N64 days to a playstation player. I sold my gigantic N64 gear to play final fantasy seven.

But, now after years of gaming I have changed and can no longer enjoy Final Fantasy. As the series has gotten worse and worse since seven. In fact,  I would say the game has become boring its game play makes you feel like a baseball manager who gives orders and doesn't actually participate in the action. You use the same techniques over and over to win, basically it is redundant and boring. The story of final fantasy remains good yet, you keep playing your boring manegorial duties to advance an only average story.SHIT I might as well watch a movie.

 

Perhaps modern games have changed me, I used to mostly play only JRPG's during the PS1's late and the PS2's early years. I used to laugh at my step-brothers playing of games like Rachet and clanck because they were so fast paced. Now every game I love is fast paced.

 

Little did I realize that fast paced Games that actually requiire skill verses endless, repetitive, manajorial duties. AM I ALONE ON GIVING UP ON THE JRPG OR DO YOU  STICK TO WHAT IS KNOWN AND COMFORTABLE ONLY?

 

For me FF7. I loved FF6 I still enjoy an occasion JRPG where the story is more philisophical like The World Ends With You. However I've been claiming this declaration that is the "problem" with JRPG. The normal JRPG is not actually a game in any sense of the word. Games are by nature a competition where you can lose. In a JRPG you can't lose you move from fight to fight with not intention of losing in the game design. Why have a fight simulator when the designer knows that you have to win. JRPG are a train of fights that are typically not exciting. So why do people play. Simple the story is fun and overall entertaining. That's reason enough. So honestly JRPG should have less fights, but make them very exciting.

Pokemon isn't so much an RPG as it's a excellent power combat simulator. It's combat simulation and strategic elements are top notch. It's just a combat simulator surrounded by a story. Where as JRPG are a story wrapped in a combat simulator. 



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chocoloco on 25 March 2010
g-value said:
chocoloco said:

I loved final fantasy seven. It caused me to go from a Nintendo only player in N64 days to a playstation player. I sold my gigantic N64 gear to play final fantasy seven.

But, now after years of gaming I have changed and can no longer enjoy Final Fantasy. As the series has gotten worse and worse since seven. In fact,  I would say the game has become boring its game play makes you feel like a baseball manager who gives orders and doesn't actually participate in the action. You use the same techniques over and over to win, basically it is redundant and boring. The story of final fantasy remains good yet, you keep playing your boring manegorial duties to advance an only average story.SHIT I might as well watch a movie.

 

Perhaps modern games have changed me, I used to mostly play only JRPG's during the PS1's late and the PS2's early years. I used to laugh at my step-brothers playing of games like Rachet and clanck because they were so fast paced. Now every game I love is fast paced.

 

Little did I realize that fast paced Games that actually requiire skill verses endless, repetitive, manajorial duties. AM I ALONE ON GIVING UP ON THE JRPG OR DO YOU  STICK TO WHAT IS KNOWN AND COMFORTABLE ONLY?

 

Have you given games like Tales of Vesperia or Valkyria Chronicles a try? There are more then just regular turn based battles systems in JRPGs out there you know.

Yes I have tried Valkyria chronicles and it is a great game, but to me it is more of a strategy game than a JRPG.

 



chocoloco on 25 March 2010

Didn't mean to piss anybody off,I wrote this after playing FF13 piss drunk ( Hell it is spring break). But my opinion remains the same and I am not basing my opinion on final fantasy alone. Still I just was thinking I can't be alone in my changing opinion towards the fun level of JRPGs. Sometimes they all seem the same. Save the world again as one recent thread greatly showed.



iLLmaticV3 on 25 March 2010

I'm not with you on that one, I still enjoy JRPG's more than any other genre, because of the unique characters, fantasy worlds, and engrossing storytelling. I enjoy grinding, exploring worlds, and the linear story-driven experience many JRPG's have to offer.



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kazad91 on 25 March 2010

i havent, JRPGs arent in their best time, far from it, but i still like them



fordy on 25 March 2010

Final Fantasy VIII did it for me. It was still a good game, though I just couldn't get into the ambience like the previous iterations.



AbbathTheGrim on 25 March 2010

As soon as I quit gaming... wait, I'm still playing!



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Final_Fan_ on 28 March 2010

I'm also one of those who had given up on Final Fantasy, because since VII the series had gone downhill, but then came Final Fantasy that gave hope for the whole genre. Shining through that darkness like a lighting. I'm very happy that games like White Knight Chronicles borrowed something from it's gameplay, though the game was very mediocre. Games like Dragon Age took the gambit system and developed it even further.

Final Fantasy is the cornerstone of JRPGs, mostly because of its production values. Production values alone do not equal a good game, as in Final Fantasy XIII's case. When I get games like Yakuza 1 and 2, Shin Megami Tensei: Luficer's call (Nocturne), Xenosaga trilogy and Skies of Arcadia in the last generation and Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, Tales of Vesperia, Yakuza series and Resonance of Fate in the current generation, I can't give up on JRPGs.

And we got something to look forward to, in Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Kingdom Hearts 3, Xenoblade, and many more. At least I hope so.