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carlos710 on 21 November 2007
Kwaad said:
I was just saying the 4 GameCubes as joke.
 

To be honest, everything you have posted looks like a joke.

"If you seriously think I think that is what nintedo would do, or what-not... yeah. I do think that when console sales start to drop, as they will when PS3/360 prices continue to slide down. Now I'm not saing be cheaper than the Wii."

So the wii its always going to be cheaper, and will always sell more. We agree on this. 

 

"But as their prices keep comming down, the same type of games start showing up on the PS3/360, look better, just becuase of the HD, it's going to be an impressive battle for the Wii."

Heavenly sword looks better than RE 4 wii edition. However its sales and the sales of the hardware.... 

 

"And it's gonna be a hard one. That is when I think Nintendo will release a new, likely more online 'centric' Wii based platform, that will surpass the Wii in most ways, yet, still remain a Wii at heart, and then bring it into the market aimed more at gamers, and due to the mass market, game designer support, and overall market support, the Wii will win the battle once and for all, without the Wii at all. You guys speak of the Wii winning this generation."

 

I think the ps3 is going to last only 3 years on the market, due to awful sales and all the money sony its losing. However you don't have any reason to believe the Wii is going to last anything else than 10 years. 

 

 

"The PS2 outsold the X-box+GameCube 2 to 1. The Wii managed that last week, for once."

 

Not really. before the price cuts of the ps3/360, the wii beat them combined week after week, like 20 weeks in a row ? 

 

"The Wii is far from the domination of sales as the PS2,"

 

Once again you don't know what you are talking about. The wii is breaking easily every record set by the PS2. However i guess i'm expecting too much from you to know this. 

 

"and when I say that, the 360, and PS3, are growing in a percentage of sales compared to the Wii."

Thats why the Wii keeps outselling them week after week 

"That means that the Wii is loosing weekly console sales market share."

Thats why the Wii keeps outselling them week after week

"What does that mean? if anything the Wii is already loosing it's #1 console sales spot. In the long term, the Wii will die down."

 

Yes, in 2016 according to most estimations. Something that sells as great as the Wii won't die before 10 years at the earliest. 

 

"Overall it's what I've been saying since july. Wii-Failure begins 2008. :) And now I give my laptop to my wife to watch some porn or something."

Overall it's what i've been saying since 2005. PS3 Failed begins in 2006, and it did. There is no getting back now, with the Wii selling more week after Week.

 

Just wait before the TRUE wii domination. You won't like life if you don't like Nintendo :) 



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dtewi on 21 November 2007
Kwaad said:
mesoteto said:
As long as I get my high-budget, games---and by this you mean short, badly controled, eye candy

 I would just like to point out really quick, that the games that I play, are NOT short, and they are definatly not badly controled.

Go play the Drakes Fortuine demo. 


Wow, a short game. I thought you don't play those. Least of all 30 minute demos.



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dtewi on 21 November 2007
Kwaad said:
mesoteto said:
As long as I get my high-budget, games---and by this you mean short, badly controled, eye candy

 I would just like to point out really quick, that the games that I play, are NOT short, and they are definatly not badly controled.

Go play the Drakes Fortuine demo. 


Wait, why are you still talking? I thought you left.



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Sugu yoko de waratteita

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takeru51 on 21 November 2007

"Overall it's what I've been saying since july. Wii-Failure begins 2008. :) And now I give my laptop to my wife to watch some porn or something."

Woh, woh, woh, woh, woh... He's old enough to be married?



kirby007 on 21 November 2007

and still watches porn...



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naznatips on 21 November 2007
Kwaad said:
mesoteto said:
As long as I get my high-budget, games---and by this you mean short, badly controled, eye candy

 I would just like to point out really quick, that the games that I play, are NOT short, and they are definatly not badly controled.

Go play the Drakes Fortuine demo. 


Uncharted is 10 hours for "Novice players" according to reviews.  That's not short for a single player game?



superchunk on 21 November 2007
superchunk said:
I don't want to read through all of the posts. But for my two cents I don't think the comparison between the 360 and any other console in terms of software sales is valid at this point and time. Here's why.

It has been out longer. In a consoles first year you are bound to have smaller attach rates, why? Because people just paid for the console. So, in 360's first year you had them spending $600 or so for the machine, xtra controller, and 1-2 games. Then at best most of these folks probably didn't buy a game for at least 6 months. Now, a year later these same people are probably spending another $400 or so on games. Thus, dramatically increasing 360's attach rate.

The Wii is really no different. People go out and spend $400 or so on the Wii, accessories, and 1-2 games beyond Wii Sports. Plus, you have the uber casual gamers who may have just Wii Sports and Play. They definitely won't buy another game right away. To them spending $400 is enough for now. Now a year will go by and then they will probably buy another $200-300 in games and BAM!! Wii's attach rate exceeds 360's due to the much larger install base by then.

We must remember. Most of us on this site are not casual gamers. Our spending habits of 10+ games a year is not normal or not what most gamers do. Most game shoppers will buy MAYBE 5 games in a year max. First year is probably only 2 due to cost of console and controllers. I think Wii is doing very well at this stage and if someone has the time and ability to research would realize it is definitely outselling 360's first year software sales.
Hehehe , I want some recongnition. Kwaad read. Its more on topic that your current flame war.

 



mesoteto on 21 November 2007
Kwaad said:
I was just saying the 4 GameCubes as joke. If you seriously think I think that is what nintedo would do, or what-not... yeah. I do think that when console sales start to drop, as they will when PS3/360 prices continue to slide down. Now I'm not saing be cheaper than the Wii. But as their prices keep comming down, the same type of games start showing up on the PS3/360, look better, just becuase of the HD, it's going to be an impressive battle for the Wii. And it's gonna be a hard one. That is when I think Nintendo will release a new, likely more online 'centric' Wii based platform, that will surpass the Wii in most ways, yet, still remain a Wii at heart, and then bring it into the market aimed more at gamers, and due to the mass market, game designer support, and overall market support, the Wii will win the battle once and for all, without the Wii at all. You guys speak of the Wii winning this generation. The PS2 outsold the X-box+GameCube 2 to 1. The Wii managed that last week, for once. The Wii is far from the domination of sales as the PS2, and when I say that, the 360, and PS3, are growing in a percentage of sales compared to the Wii. That means that the Wii is loosing weekly console sales market share. What does that mean? if anything the Wii is already loosing it's #1 console sales spot. In the long term, the Wii will die down. Overall it's what I've been saying since july. Wii-Failure begins 2008. :) And now I give my laptop to my wife to watch some porn or something.

i am confused...isnt the wii having a better launch cycle then the ps2?



 

dtewi on 21 November 2007

Actually Kwaad you've been saying since November 2006 that wii will die in the next 2 months.



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Sugu yoko de waratteita

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dtewi on 21 November 2007

Kwaad's next move:

A) Gives thought-out well reasoned arguement.

B) Calls us all Wii fanboys and biches and moans

C) Gives out f@$%@d arguement.

My bet is B.



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

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