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steverhcp02 on 23 March 2010
superchunk said:
steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

Wrong. Its run of the mill PR. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony has been geeting demolished in marketshare via handhelds, theyre focusing on 3D in living rooms, and have clearly put the PSP and handheld market on the backburner.

In fact it was logical to persue that then try to topple the DS, so they started this in the living room and since their brand carries home theaters, televisions, and blu-ray players it was not only logical for thei investors but for the company in general.

Yep, I know its all PR rubbish. But, clearly the overall response is because of the 3DS and Sony's investors will inevitably ask the question of why PSP isn't going to have this as the rest of Sony is pushing 3D. So, while my comment may be a little fanboyish, the intent is the same.

I hardly imagine that the PSP is Sony investors main concern. Your not looking at it logically form a company standpoint. The psp is such a small part of what sony is.

Youre trying to extraploate a single PR press release into some shdow of doubt and Sony back peddling from investors when the big picture sees sony at the forefront of 3d in divisions which are nto only more important for the company but tie together, IE: 3d blu-ray players, 3d televisions hooked to 3d enabled PS3's with Sony surround sound. THAT is the big picture, you are trying to make a mountain out of less than a mole hill and paint some doom and gloom reason why the freaking PSP, selling 30k in the states doesnt have 3d....like investors give a shit right now.




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superchunk on 23 March 2010
steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

Wrong. Its run of the mill PR. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony has been geeting demolished in marketshare via handhelds, theyre focusing on 3D in living rooms, and have clearly put the PSP and handheld market on the backburner.

In fact it was logical to persue that then try to topple the DS, so they started this in the living room and since their brand carries home theaters, televisions, and blu-ray players it was not only logical for thei investors but for the company in general.

Yep, I know its all PR rubbish. But, clearly the overall response is because of the 3DS and Sony's investors will inevitably ask the question of why PSP isn't going to have this as the rest of Sony is pushing 3D. So, while my comment may be a little fanboyish, the intent is the same.

I hardly imagine that the PSP is Sony investors main concern. Your not looking at it logically form a company standpoint. The psp is such a small part of what sony is.

Youre trying to extraploate a single PR press release into some shdow of doubt and Sony back peddling from investors when the big picture sees sony at the forefront of 3d in divisions which are nto only more important for the company but tie together, IE: 3d blu-ray players, 3d televisions hooked to 3d enabled PS3's with Sony surround sound. THAT is the big picture, you are trying to make a mountain out of less than a mole hill and paint some doom and gloom reason why the freaking PSP, selling 30k in the states doesnt have 3d....like investors give a shit right now.

You're absolutely right, the PSP is a very small item on Sony's payroll. I admit that my comment was simply fanboyish in nature.

However, I still detest Sony (as well as other companies) push for Active Shutter 3D systems. Nintendo's desire for a glassless one is far better (hell, even the passive system would be fantastic) and will become the standard.



lvader on 23 March 2010
leo-j said:
lvader said:
Didn't Sony call the DS a gimmick?, I bet Nintendo hopes this ones turns out just the same!
Talking of demographics, designing a handeld for 8-9 year olds with dual screen and stylus control makes even less sense than 3D.

They never called the DS a gimmick..also, it wont since SONY has announced long ago that the Playstation 3 will offer 3d gaming/movies this year..

although the need for glasses is there. If a 3d tv costs that much, I can only imagine how much a 3DS will cost with a screen that can do 3D without glasses, if tv's with glasses cost well over 2k.

 

Gimmick is exactly what Sony called the DS.

""With the DS, it’s fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen,” Harrison continued. “But I fear that it won’t have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick – so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that.”"

3D is easy to do on a handheld, multi-layer LCD technology has been around for a while. It won't be that expensive to do.



AdventWolf on 23 March 2010

I wish they would concentrate more on gaming and less on the gimmick that is 3D! It doesn't "enhance" the experience at all for me.



steverhcp02 on 23 March 2010
superchunk said:

You're absolutely right, the PSP is a very small item on Sony's payroll. I admit that my comment was simply fanboyish in nature.

However, I still detest Sony (as well as other companies) push for Active Shutter 3D systems. Nintendo's desire for a glassless one is far better (hell, even the passive system would be fantastic) and will become the standard.

I couldnt agree more. Honestly, companies like Samsung and Panasonic are screwing the pooch when it comes to 3d with all of these exclusives arrangements. The best thing about this announcment is that if nintendo is embracing it then it bodes well for 3d entertainment in general which is good for all of us.

 

 




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lvader on 23 March 2010

What Nintendo is doing is a true 3D, you will see different things by looking at different angles. The 3D Sony is doing is just an optical illusion of 3D i.e. adds nothing.



leo-j on 23 March 2010
lvader said:
leo-j said:
lvader said:
Didn't Sony call the DS a gimmick?, I bet Nintendo hopes this ones turns out just the same!
Talking of demographics, designing a handeld for 8-9 year olds with dual screen and stylus control makes even less sense than 3D.

They never called the DS a gimmick..also, it wont since SONY has announced long ago that the Playstation 3 will offer 3d gaming/movies this year..

although the need for glasses is there. If a 3d tv costs that much, I can only imagine how much a 3DS will cost with a screen that can do 3D without glasses, if tv's with glasses cost well over 2k.

 

Gimmick is exactly what Sony called the DS.

""With the DS, it’s fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen,” Harrison continued. “But I fear that it won’t have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick – so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that.”"

3D is easy to do on a handheld, multi-layer LCD technology has been around for a while. It won't be that expensive to do.

Please bring me a source for your little quote, if 3d is so hard to implement on an HD TV, what makes you think its simple to impliment on a handheld?

@Pesmerga515

They didn't mock, they simply said "its an interesting idea to bring 3d to handhelds, but based on our market research not many people are too interested in 3d gaming on a handheld, and they don't see a young audience going ape shit over 3d gaming on a handheld"

SONY is the one who started the whole 3d gaming thing to begin with, so before you claim they are "going to rip off" nintendo please do some research.. 3D GAMING is coming to PLAYSTATION 3 this year.




 

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woopah on 23 March 2010
alfredofroylan said:
NiKKoM said:
woopah said:
am I the only one who fails to see why being 9 instead of 19 has an effect or you ability to enjoy 3D?

Well I have been wondering that why they would say it.. and the only answer that I can think of is because Sony's vision on 3d involves 3d glasses and cause little kids can't wear the glasses propely while playing a handheld which you would hold a bit down.. they would slide off.. maybe sony didn't think about 3d without glasses.. 

Well I have another idea about this. I've seen a lot of movies with the 3D gimmick recently and all of them are nothing but just regular movies with a cheap 3D effect added (Coraline was much better on 2D, Avatar and Alice in Wonderland is the same) so instead of being an amazing experience it was just annoying and gave me a headache.


The most recent movie with a good use of 3D is in my opinion the Polar Express and the reason of that is because the movie was planned as a 3D experience. There's a huge difference between making a 3D movie and just making a movie with the 3D effects added later, so as an adult I can check the difference and set my experiences based on that. But kids are different, they enjoy life much than adults and get amazed with experiences like 3D even if these experiences are just cheap adds in a movie or game.

So well I think kids could jump into the 3D gaming faster than adults.

which again is the complete opposite of what this guy was saying. Im predicting that it will be a lot eaiser and cheaper for a 9 year old to buy a 3DS than a PS3 + 3D ready TV + glasses



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Pesmerga515 on 23 March 2010
Max King of the Wild said:
Pesmerga515 said:

SONY'S CHECKLIST

[x] Downplay and mock Nintendo's new hardware implementation.

[ ] Scramble to put it into our own hardware.

[ ] Once finished, mock Nintendo again for not having the slight enhancement that we have for the hardware.

 

 

Yep, looks like they're right on schedule.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

Well, I'd love to hear your definition, chief, and more importantly, how it does not at all apply to Sony's PR/advertising.



Sharky54 on 23 March 2010

This is the reverse of what everyone says BTW. It was Nintendo who saw Sony pushing 3D. So they had to announce this before them. So they could steal the spotlight.