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Move is a copy/inspired by Wii or Move ins't a copy/inspired by Wii poll

Yes 317 67.74%
 
No 151 32.26%
 
Total:468
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
I'm not voting, because as I see it, it could be both. Obviously if Nintendo hadn't done the Wii, the exact thing that is today the Move and the support it's getting would have been different, but I don't know if it would be enough to warrant a 'yes'.

If you don't vote you aren't a real person!

Your mom isn't a real person!

Mean!

No, funny!



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Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
I'm not voting, because as I see it, it could be both. Obviously if Nintendo hadn't done the Wii, the exact thing that is today the Move and the support it's getting would have been different, but I don't know if it would be enough to warrant a 'yes'.

If you don't vote you aren't a real person!

Your mom isn't a real person!

Mean!

Not, funny!

Fixed.

I want you to know that im not going to be buying your game, Yellow Rain. Its too much of a copy of Heavy Raid, so there!!!!



Tease.

It's obvious this has been 'inspired' by the wiimote but I do not think it was a copy. I think the OP is putting words in the mouth of people by not giving the right options.

For example, you could say that the wiimote has motion technology that originates from the playstation [MDvs]. Hence, the wiimote copied the [MDvs] by the op's opinion. If so, then Squilliam is asserting that Nintendo copied Sony?

For my own opinion, I think that the wiimote and move are very very different. The only thing that they have in common is the fact that they both resemble the handle of a racket (Tennis, Badminton etc.).



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Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:
I'm not voting, because as I see it, it could be both. Obviously if Nintendo hadn't done the Wii, the exact thing that is today the Move and the support it's getting would have been different, but I don't know if it would be enough to warrant a 'yes'.

If you don't vote you aren't a real person!

Your mom isn't a real person!

Mean!

Not, funny!

Fixed.

I want you to know that im not going to be buying your game, Yellow Rain. Its too much of a copy of Heavy Raid, so there!!!!

Heavy Raid is nothing like Yellow Rain! Heavy Raid is basically a one man raid in WoW that only warriors can enter, how lame is that?! Now Yellow Rain, that has pee in it, which alone makes it better than Heavy Raid!



Inspired. Just as natal was inspired by the PS Eye.



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I have an argument that says it wasn't inspired. Has anybody played the eyetoy games...yea, that's right, they are magically very similar to Wii games. I believe their ideas of games are completely their own (in that Wii actually improved/copied on the idea of an eyetoy) and that they have had an improved eyetoy planned since the original eye toy came out.



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Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
Rainbird said:

Not, funny!

Fixed.

I want you to know that im not going to be buying your game, Yellow Rain. Its too much of a copy of Heavy Rain, so there!!!!

Heavy Raid is nothing like Yellow Rain! Heavy Raid is basically a one man raid in WoW that only warriors can enter, how lame is that?! Now Yellow Rain, that has pee in it, which alone makes it better than Heavy Raid!

Hey it was a typo. You knew what I meant! Heavy Rain is great, but I don't see why anyone will want a golden shower instead. Maybe CGI_Quality wants to look more blond than bleach which could mean after hes finished with Heavy Rain he'll want a go at Yellow Rain because its more effective when you have wet hair or something like that.



Tease.

In reality it's not.

But public perception is what is important in this case. So I guess it is.



Bit of a loaded question there. You should have separated out copy and inspired because they aren't the same thing, and conflating the 2 the way you did requires people to accept the copy tag when they maight not agree with that assessment, but they totally agree with the inspired by tag. Like me.

Copy? No, definitely not. Copy means replication in both form and function. There is no factually accurate way in which you can say PS Move is a copy.

Inspired by, yes. Derivative, yes.

People using the term rip off are showing just how small minded they are when it comes to this sort of discussion. It's a rip off like the Mac is a rip off of the PC (or the other way 'round depending on your loyalties on that equally irrational and emotionally charged debate).

A rip off is the likes of those cheap Chinese PnP games machines that looks a lot like the Wii (or 360) but don't function like a Wii, but rather are completely inferior in every way to the Wii. And in many ways is used to trick people into thinking they're getting a Wii or something that does the same thing as a Wii but when you get it home and turn it on you find it's doesn't even deserve to be used as a pedistal for the Wii to stand on. So Bamboleo, your example is in fact an apt demonstration of how PSMove is NOT a rip off of Wii motion control, the exact opposite of what you were trying to convey.

The PS Move controllers look a lot like the Wiimote and nunchuck, and they generally do the same job. But functionally they are different, with the camera element making the total package very distinct and providing it with capabilities in excess of what can be achieved with the Wiimotion+ and Nunchuck. So PS Move brings a potential added dimension to motion controlled gaming over and above what's available on the Wii. That is the very opposite of rip-off when it comes to getting into mainstream motion controlled gaming.

Whether those capabilities (head tracking, voice recognition, full body motion etc) amount to anything substantially better for the consumer is yet to be seen.

So on balance I voted yes, because if Wiimotion had only met with only modest to slight success we wouldn't have PS Move, at least not this gen. Though I think mainstreaming of motion controlled gaming was always an inevitability and if Nintendo hadn't hit on the right formula this then then the right formula would have been found in a subsequent generation.

But, you can also say that PSMove is derivative of and an evolutionary step up from the amalgamation of sixaxis and PSEye. Sony has been in the motion control shpere since last gen and from the beginning of this gen, so they are not a johnny-come-lately me too outfit (which "copy" and "rip-off" are normally intended to convey). It just took Nintendo to shine a light on how to implement it most effectively for the mass market.

As has been pointed out Wiimotion is also derivative of / inspired by earlier attempts at motion controlled gaming. And who knows, Sony might have done Nintendo a favour in trying out the Eyetoy with the PS2 and it not catching on too well. If Sony hadn't tried and failed to mainstream the Eyetoy Nintendo might have tried and equally failed with it on the Wii. So instead they saw the limited performance of the Eyetoy and clearly dismissed it out of hand as a possible direction for their motion control mainstreaming plans. Sometimes you are inspired by other's failures as much as you are inspired by their successes.



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Wagram said:
Inspired. Just as natal was inspired by the PS Eye.

Oh no you didn't