LOL, I found some hilarious Crow serving from 2007:

I think tretton isn't a much good spokesman... Bullshit pops out of his mouth from time to time.

I never said I did. I am saying people are saying PS eye sucks but are hyping natal like there's no tomorrow.

the move and natal have shown just how hypocritical ps3 and 360 fanboys are.

just think of it. Along time ago both ps3 and 360 fanboys would always constantly bash the wii for being a gimmick because of a motion sensing control, but then sony and ms announce there motion sensing devices and now all of a sudden ps3 and 360 fanboys are talking about how great motion sensing is now even though they were bashing the wii for being gimmicky and gay for years and years.

and honestly the excuses i hear for how move and natal are not copycats of something it just makes me laugh.

Well sony was developing motion controls since 2000. Yet it took them 10 years to make one?

oh but natal isnt an eyetoy copycat because the eyetoy wasnt a big success. So what? doesnt change the fact that the eyetoy still did what natal is doing 8 years ago.

and whos gonna want to play with either anyway? no ps3 or 360 owner i know even wants to play with that stuff.

Well that is obviously because Natal is way better.

Microsoft guys are constantly saying so, so what's your doubt?

You're right.

But be prepared for the meltdown.

*back to Tomena Sanner*

so what real gamer in their right mind thinks a gamepad and games tailored for gamepad controls are the best choice? i dont understand how anyone thinks a gamepad is precise control , yes for games like god of war they work great but when precision aiming or a very complex interface comes into play the gamepad is totally garbage and needs to be replaced as soon as possible.

this is my opinion and im sure many of you think its wrong but ive been playing games for years and years and pc interface and controls destroy most games made for consoles with the exceptions of hack and slash and some sports titles, if there is other options for people who feel the gamepad is terrible why the hell not im all for sonys games and their future controls

come on people just think of it for a moment. NATAL

how is not having a controller gonna make games more fun to play?

most people bought the 360 for shooters and if you cant make natal work with one of the most popular genres on the console then how can it possibly be a success? and i dont see how you are going to

move around at any degree, scope or zoom in with your gun, pick up weapons and ammo, and when it comes to driving vehicles how are you gonna drive and shoot at the same time with no controller? and the shooting aspect is the most important one its gonna be very very very awkward trying to fire your gun when you have no real trigger to pull on. Playing a shooter on natal will be like playing duck hunt on the NES without the zapper but with your fingers instead and how is that suppose to be fun?

dont forget about racers like anyone wants to play a racer where you pretend to steer with an imaginary steering wheel? it will be like playing mario kart wii without the wii wheel and this is somehow gonna be better than a controller?

and milo is just something for loaners and pedophiles.

as for the move

come on sony fanboys its just a wiimote dressed up like a dildo. Hell i even heard that wiimotion plus is even more precise than the move. I use to think the move was more precise and accurate than the wiimote but hearing about the major input lag issues with the move. The move just seems liek a downgraded wiimote that looks like a dildo.

You guys do realise it wasn't the controls themselves, but the games that used the controls that people were laughing at... Don't you?

If the Wii was having games like Gears of War, Half Life, BioShock, Metal Gear Solid. Instead of Carnival Games, Game Party, My Sims, Deca Sports... Then the Wii and Motion Controls would have had HEAPS of praise.

If PS Move and Natal both end up being filled with party games and shovelware, or Sony/MS just start focusing on the "expanded market" instead of games like the ones i mentioned, they will get no love for it, just like the Wii hasn't.

Awesome!  I now have that image bookmarked for reuse.

Now, if I could only get an animated Ugoff FTW!