Ok my $.02
Natal is a copy of the playstation eye, but does that mean it is worse? No, it will probably be better.
The move is a copy of the wiimote, but does that mean it will be worse?

Honestly, people hate the eyetoy but love Natal (visa verso also)
and the same can be said for wii\move

I can't be the only person that is bugged by this!

To be quite frank with both SONY and MICROSOFT.

If I wanted motion controls with my games I would have bought a Wii.

Now quit comparing the size of your manhoods admit you are never going to win the gen and get back to hardcore gaming.

such wisdom in this post.

Squilliam said: Garnett said: Squilliam said: My signature is the answer to that guy. Im just posting so people can see how Sony doesn't imitate competitors. Btw its a pretty lame dive coming from a company shamed into third place by last generation hardware and motion controls which his company first mocked and then copied. QTF!   I would love to see Major Nelson come and say "If you want a motion controller go out and buy a $200 wii that came out 4 ago" I won't deny that they have many avenues for a comeback. However I feel the best one is for them to simply say "We let the quality of our products speak for itself, we do not rely on slagging our competitors and we believe that any competitor who slags our products is only doing so out of fear" Or something like that. If Microsoft were to respond in kind im afraid I would have to mock them too. I don't like bad PR coming from any company. I thought of a pretty cool advertisement for Natal. Just 15 seconds, have a hot chick sits down on the couch, relaxes, puts her feet up on the coffee table then she sweeps the remotes off the coffee table with her foot and then she raises her hand to command Natal. Just 15s, straight to the point and they can use any tag line they want like "jump in" "take control" "ditch the remotes" "free yourself".

The new motto

"Xbox 360 Elite: Start the Revolution"

Hot damn!

Wooooooooooow @ some reactions in this thread


@kowen.

How come we never see you on a crusade like this when Greenberg spouts his usual bullshit?

kowenicki said: Carl2291 said: Wooooooooooow @ some reactions in this thread @kowen. How come we never see you on a crusade like this when Greenberg spouts his usual bullshit? how come i never see you saying jack spouts bullshit?

Because from what i've seen, he rarely does spout bullshit. He usually keeps things civil. And i'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on that one.

Now, can we be sure to see you pulling Greenberg quotes up the next time he says something really dumb? Probably in his next interview. I can't wait to see all the dirt you can pick up on him 

How can you love something that isn't on the market yet?

Will be a huge LOL if natal turns out to be shit. It's from Microsoft, so i'm expecting tons of bugs! :D

this is what it comes down to and for all of you trying to justify anything else well you will soon see.

you get sonys motion controls if your into the more hardcore games plus the occasional party games but they will have plenty and plenty of support for all the crowds

you get natal for lots and lots of party games , hardcore games wont work on natal and many of the reps have said so. Its main focus is to attract a crowd that is controller handicapped you wont have the AAA fps or any type of AAA titles using natal.

i own both consoles and for the types of games i want to play im totally buying sony move, natal will not be able to compete with the hardcore games unless they introduce some type of motion controller.

many of you can think what you want but really try to put yourself into bioshock 2 with natal or playing online in battlefield 2 , the games require so many buttons and who wants to play standing up for 3 hours online holding your arm out to shoot at least with sonys controls you can easily sit back and play like you would with any other type of gamepad only difference is the aiming is going to be 100 times better than any gamepad.

what about for games like dragon age , with the sony move youll be able to have an interface much like pcs version which in my eyes is a much better experience than a dumbed out gamepad version any reputable site will tell you that dragon age was better on pc and the biggest reason was the interface.

sony could even bring in titles like world of goo which is one of my favorites again how could it work on natal is it precise enough to detect finger precision? i dont think so , either way i know which console to stick with in the long haul

Tretton has had his fair share of dumb comments. But for a PR he is a pretty decent and civil guy.

kowenicki said: Carl2291 said: kowenicki said: Carl2291 said: Wooooooooooow @ some reactions in this thread @kowen. How come we never see you on a crusade like this when Greenberg spouts his usual bullshit? how come i never see you saying jack spouts bullshit? Because from what i've seen, he rarely does spout bullshit. He usually keeps things civil. And i'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on that one. Now, can we be sure to see you pulling Greenberg quotes up the next time he says something really dumb? Probably in his next interview. I can't wait to see all the dirt you can pick up on him  I'll do my best... so you think the 3 quotes I had earlier for Tretton were not bullshit then?

I said rarely. I didn't say he never says anything bad. And the last one could end up true.