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Wii holding up surprisingly well on a week where seemingly everything is going against it (big HD week in FFXIII, virtually no 3rd party game releases for Wii, no big Nintendo games released for awhile, supply shortages). If Wii can just weather this upcoming storm during FFXIII and GOW3 week they will have it in the bag for the majority of the year with big games like Galaxy 2, Monster Hunter 3, Zelda Wii, and Other M, not to mention Vitality Sensor.

I actually expected much better from FFXIII. Part of me actually wishes it doesn't do so well so I can pick it up for a budget price :P



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CGI-Quality said:
ProdigyBam said:
CGI-Quality said:
ProdigyBam said:
CGI-Quality said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:
This is North America thread so it's obvious that I was talking about NA only.

Considering that XIII did more on PS3 and 360 than XII in NA week 1, it still doesn't make sense. How is it bad for Final Fantasy when the numbers have improved and probably would have even if it was still PS3-only, or at least matched XII's #s?

XII Week 1 - 571,945

XIII Week 1 - (PS3/360) - 672,000

The fanbase is split a bit, but the numbers state that XIII is performing better than XII did. It seems like people aren't checking the numbers to see how XIII is ACTUALLY performing for a Final Fantasy.

Why compare it to XII?

Its the first FF of this generation so it should be compared to FFX imo.

Also in this gen games have much shorter legs than last gen, so its obvious that FF13 wont come near to the sales of FF12.

It's like MGS4. It was compared to Snake Eater, not Sons of Liberty.

Besides, we don't have the data for FFX's US Week 1 sales.

Even IF we compare FF13 to FF12 (what is stupid imo just like comparing MGS4 to MGS3 instead of MGS2) it still wont reach 5,7 million.

5,5 million units at MOST, the game doesnt have the best word of mouth, no MP and there are many good games coming out and games that are out that are much better than it - FF13 (going by metacritic)

- Final Fantasy games have never had multiplayer, so that won't matter mcuh.

- The game is getting bad word of mouth? News to me.

- It's already nearing 3 million on PS3 alone, so 5.5mill total is too low.

- Comparing it to the most recent in the series is the best to go on. You'll know if it has gained fans/lost fans.

- Too many good games/games that are better than it are pure opinion.

- Didnt matter much in the past but now games need multiplayer or the average joe will just look at the back of the game and say: "hmm, 1 player? 60 bucks? okay, going to get mw2 instead"

- Bad word of mouth comparing to the last games (except FF12) just look at the amazon user reviews - 4 stars (3,5 for 360 version) isnt the best word of mouth to be honest, for such a franchise

- yea, including japan sales where the FFs have really short legs... :/

- but the first game of a franchise in a generation tends to sell the best (at least in the last gen..)

- there are much higher reviewed games on metacritic (professial opinions)

and much higher reviewed games by gamers, on amazon.com for example (opinions by the people who buyed and played the game)



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ProdigyBam said:
CGI-Quality said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:
This is North America thread so it's obvious that I was talking about NA only.

Considering that XIII did more on PS3 and 360 than XII in NA week 1, it still doesn't make sense. How is it bad for Final Fantasy when the numbers have improved and probably would have even if it was still PS3-only, or at least matched XII's #s?

XII Week 1 - 571,945

XIII Week 1 - (PS3/360) - 672,000

The fanbase is split a bit, but the numbers state that XIII is performing better than XII did. It seems like people aren't checking the numbers to see how XIII is ACTUALLY performing for a Final Fantasy.

Why compare it to XII?

Its the first FF of this generation so it should be compared to FFX imo.

Also in this gen games have much shorter legs than last gen, so its obvious that FF13 wont come near to the sales of FF12.

yes and FFX's first NPD was below 1 million (seen this on other forums)

Besides, S-E have confirmed FF13 is the fastest selling FF title to date



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kowenicki said:
I'm late to the debate...

Are people saying FFXIII did badly?

Some are.

I think it did okay for FF but the results I think are nonetheless potentially a little dissapointing for SE as rather than seeing a big boost from being on 360 over and above PS3, it seems to have sold okay for a FF in US - i.e. roughly expected sales were split across 360/PS3 vs similar PS3 to PS2 sales plus a bunch of nice new sales on 360 which would have given the franchise a boost through being multiplatform.

 

 



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kowenicki said:
I'm late to the debate...

Are people saying FFXIII did badly?

FFXIII sold more than FF12 week 1

FF13 according to S-E is the fastest selling game in the series to date (in the west)

FF13 has a combined 2.7 Million week 1 worldwide

Yes and people think it did badly....to be fair a minority thinks like this....but still its baffling to me.



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It did good in the West. But I don't think it will beat XII worldwide when all is said and done. It's got too much of a deficit in Japan and will have to sell on word of mouth for longer legs than XII.



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Arguing with you is like.... :S
Yea, it doesnt make sense
I tell you that games do more sales if they have a MP and youre are listing some sp games that did good numbers, no really there are games without a mp that sold great?!

and i said FF13 doesnt have legs in japan not that you have to exclude the sales or something
seriously...

and of course all potential buyers of FF13 only play Jrpgs, yeah....
lets stop that, its ridicilious



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CGI-Quality said:
ProdigyBam said:
CGI-Quality said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:
This is North America thread so it's obvious that I was talking about NA only.

Considering that XIII did more on PS3 and 360 than XII in NA week 1, it still doesn't make sense. How is it bad for Final Fantasy when the numbers have improved and probably would have even if it was still PS3-only, or at least matched XII's #s?

XII Week 1 - 571,945

XIII Week 1 - (PS3/360) - 672,000

The fanbase is split a bit, but the numbers state that XIII is performing better than XII did. It seems like people aren't checking the numbers to see how XIII is ACTUALLY performing for a Final Fantasy.

Why compare it to XII?

Its the first FF of this generation so it should be compared to FFX imo.

Also in this gen games have much shorter legs than last gen, so its obvious that FF13 wont come near to the sales of FF12.

It's like MGS4. It was compared to Snake Eater, not Sons of Liberty.

Also erroneous imo.  I notice PS-fans always seem to liken PS3 sequels to the PS2 originals before release (see: GT5/GT3) but after release they always compare to the less successful last PS2 installments (see: MGS4/MGS3).  Of course this isn't unique to PS-fans, Nintendo and Xbox fans do the same, and it's just as annoying when they do it too. :/



Really what the hell is the point of saying MGS4 didn't beat MGS2? It probably will in the long run, or at least come very close.



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Summing up my own views with what I've read, would I be correct in stating the general consensus is:

1 - FFXIII sold pretty well given its genre, history, reviews, etc. in the West

2 - total sales in West are a little disappointing in as much, per 1) above, being multi-platform hasn't actually expanded the sales base noticeably meaning either the demand was split due to 360/PS3 install base in West or demand on Sony platform was down and the new demand from 360 owners only just offset it vs getting strong demand on PS3 plus a big boost from 360 platform

That seems to be the sum of what I'm reading (well, the sensible posts anyway).



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