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I would almost believe it's real. One thing that does bother me is how come there are so many more pin connectors on the new MB than the old one? Looks like 9 versus 2.  Maybe it's just there for testing since it's a prototype.  If it's at this stage, and it's real, looks like MS is trying for a Xmas release. Xmas Xbox?



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Fake. They would not be buying Coolermaster fans+heatsinks. They can and would get a FAR cheaper alternative. Sorry but im not biting

damn talk about cheap, it's fake, coolermaster fans for a console, something compaq use in their cheap desktop

and using heatsink it won't be slim, it will should be even bigger. more like a cube



the fan is most likely for testing purposes.



A slim sexy (consumers care about that shit. The PS3 slim is sexier and looks good with a home entertainment centre. That`s one of the reasons it`s popular) Xbox 360 Slim with a small power brick (or internal power supply) and a small energy-efficient GPU/CPU would breathe some life into the Xbox 360. Also include an internal hard drive (and make them upgradeable ala the PS3). The current external hard drives are too big for a Slim redesign.



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-360-slim-blog-entry

Digital Foundry hits the scene and thinks it is legit:

 

 

In Theory: Is this the Xbox 360 Slim?

March 17th, 2010

Leaked photos have emerged purporting to show a new, smaller revision of the Xbox 360 motherboard, provoking speculation that Microsoft is set to relaunch its console later in the year. Xbox 360 Slim any one?

Similar to the PS3 Slim leaks last year, the pictures emanate from an obscure Chinese message board, and the shots of the motherboard certainly look genuine, with enough of the original 360 components in view to suggest authenticity. They also display several new, original features, plus of course a smaller form factor.

By comparing parts common to the current model, it appears that this most fundamental of components is over a third smaller in size than the Jasper revision 360 board.

Two shots have been revealed so far. The first is a top-down view of the board itself, suggesting a smaller, squarer layout topped off with a conspicuously off-the-shelf Coolermaster fan. The second shot sees the leaker removing the cooling assembly to reveal what appears to be an integrated Xenon and Xenos CPU/GPU combination package, which ties in nicely with the so-called Valhalla revision of the 360 first mentioned a couple of years back and also believed to be based on a single combined processor set-up.

While the single heatspreader underneath the cooling assembly strongly suggests a unified design for the core hardware, the leaker hasn't had the courage to remove it completely and expose the dies below, which would settle the issue completely and would also allow us to ascertain whether Microsoft is using a 45nm or even smaller fabrication process for the unified chip.

Smaller parts mean a cooler, more power-efficient, cheaper-to-manufacture system and even the current, apparently reliable 360 is still running a 65nm process for both chips. The PS3 Slim in contrast runs at 45nm for the CPU and 65nm for the RSX, and a single package within the 360 would allow Microsoft to pursue an even more aggressive price-cutting strategy if it needed to do so.

What is interesting is that the board has doubled the number of SATA connections to two over on the top-left of the first picture. In current 360 hardware, only one is used for connecting up the internal DVD-ROM drive.

This could mean that Microsoft is planning support for internal drives, but bearing in mind the success of its Arcade SKU, it is unlikely that the firm would commit to HDD-integrated machines: laptop drives don't generally get cheaper, they just get bigger in terms of storage, and for Microsoft to surrender one of the factors behind its price advantage is unlikely. It's more probable that the drives will come in new Slim-friendly caddies.

Another curious change appears to be the complete omission of any mounting holes for the DVD drive, which clearly sits to the left of the fan. Either a variant of the existing DVD drive attaches to the case in a different way, or else an entirely different assembly is used. Assuming the costs work out, we could even be getting a thin, slot-loading drive similar to the PlayStation 3.

The location of the optical drive itself is a big improvement over the existing Xbox 360 design, which places the DVD-ROM directly above both CPU and GPU, further complicating the cooling of the hottest parts of the console. The cooling setup doesn't really tell us much. The Coolermaster fan would be way too large for a production console, plus you'll note that the fan itself is only secured in one place to the heatsink below.

There's nothing on the board that suggests any kind of onboard Natal, meaning that the new 360 still requires a decent array of USB ports, though it looks as though the MU readers have been cut down to just a single slot.

In part understandable but at the same time rather disappointing is the omission of any kind of Wi-Fi chipset on the motherboard, so it does seem as though extortionately expensive wireless internet dongles will remain the standard if the pics are valid.

On the bright side, however, the just-as-stupidly expensive audio dongle appears to be a thing of the past, with what looks very much like a Toslink SPDIF optical output directly above the fan to the left, next to what we can assume is the current Xbox 360 AV port, with HDMI output to the left of that.

Other than that, no surprises, though we can assume that the top-right socket is for the power supply, which will almost certainly remain external in contrast to the neat internal PSU in the PS3 Slim.

Comedy cooling fan aside, there's nothing here to suggest that this isn't the real deal. It's just too well-designed to be a fake and in a world where PS3 Slims turn up months in advance on in a Philippines marketplace, leaked pics surfacing on a Chinese forum are eminently plausible.

Even if it's not a 360 Slim, the radical change in form factor and mounting holes means that this revision of motherboard cannot physically fit inside the current shell and certainly not with the current DVD drive.

A 360 relaunch for Natal then? Microsoft has already issued its obligatory "we don't comment on rumour and speculation" line.



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4 Memory chips close to the GPU/CPU. Makes sense.. 4x128MB=512MB.. Assuming the system is 512MB. I don't see what's fake about it, but I wonder how they will cool this. That CM-fan is clearly just a testing thing. There's no way that'll be in the final console. However, usually heat output is in the back of a console, and well, it doesn't have a lot of space for that.



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Ooh I hope they really do make a slim!  If they did I would trade my old 360 in and buy the slim.

I'm still kinda skeptical though.



If this is true does anyone else believe the Slim 360 will be released in Q4, or are they going to release to retailers once they unveil it ?



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Wow lots of good information in that article thanks for posting it. Well it sounds like this is VERY legit and a huge improvement over older 360 in terms of performance and reliability. This really sounds like a must have for 360 fans and I'll be certainly buying one.



Doubt it.