| Lastgengamer said:
“We have 36 developers on board for this, the who’s-who of the development community and just from our worldwide studios alone, you’re going to see twenty games this fiscal year and it’s going to span the casual and hardcore”. http://www.vg247.com/2010/03/16/tretton-move-is-not-meant-to-replace-current-controllers/ |
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I'm glad to hear that they aren't replacing the controller with the move controller. I'll be interested in seeing how the games are once it comes out but I"m not sold on it yet.
jneul said:
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How many games it had doesn't matter. How many games it has now does matter. I'll have none of this alligned launches BS.
| czecherychestnut said: About 3 decades ago, game developers discovered that you could make games that allowed the user to change the difficulty level, without having to write a whole new game! Amazing I know. Do you think that Sony might have incorporated this amazing discovery into their sports games, so that casuals could kick arse through random swinging, but people who are good at table tennis could challenge themselves by making it more accurate and harder? It is a scary time we live in. And looking at Wii software sales, tacked on motion controls are no barrier to success. |
Wii Sports has difficulty levels, obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
Oh and where exactly have the tacked on motion control games succeeded so admirably compared to the ones designed for it from the ground up?
WilliamWatts said:
Options = game with motion controls tacked on. I.E. The move is just another way to point an analogue stick essentially. 20 titles is too few after you remove the unsuitable and the ones you aren't interested in. Out of perhaps 400 games available on the PS3 are you interested in more than 40? A game like table tennis + accuracy = burying the casual audience under their own ineptness. Most people cannot play table tennis effectively. Fewer will be able to play Move table tennis. Its a hardcore casual game, but when has that ever worked out? The reason why Wii Sports is effective is that anyone can pick it up and play, even people who had never used the controller before.
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lol wha? So adding more to motion controls is gonna lead to bury the audience cuz they aren't pro at table tennis? I mean really?
The lack of motion sensing on the wii makes players get buried in there boredom because everyone is doing the same thing with skills not needed. See what I did there? Is that what you want 'gaming' to be?
Unless your playmates are pro table tennis I doubt that it will make a difference. If the player is good then he is good.
Go check the official Move thread for the upcoming titles. You will see some good variety in there. There will be something for all. And again, with a PS3, you get MORE than just MOVE. You get all the great games it has to offer as well. So it's not the next Wii. It's the PS3 with just something in addition. And also do you think the casual market will buy 20 -30 games in half an year for a household? Be reasonable here. I know wii owners who still haven't bought more than 5 games since launch because that's enough for them to entertain their guests. As long as the Move has at least 5 games I would enjoy I'll buy it.
Sigh let's face it. You don't like the Move. You haven't tried as everyone else. You have never said anything good about it. You make up one random reason after the other on Move related threads and frankly your making absolute no sense. If you do not like it so much, don't post in these threads. It's getting tiring
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lol wha? So adding more to motion controls is gonna lead to bury the audience cuz they aren't pro at table tennis? I mean really? The lack of motion sensing on the wii makes players get buried in there boredom because everyone is doing the same thing with skills not needed. See what I did there? Is that what you want 'gaming' to be? Unless your playmates are pro table tennis I doubt that it will make a difference. If the player is good then he is good. Go check the official Move thread for the upcoming titles. You will see some good variety in there. There will be something for all. And again, with a PS3, you get MORE than just MOVE. You get all the great games it has to offer as well. So it's not the next Wii. It's the PS3 with just something in addition. And also do you think the casual market will buy 20 -30 games in half an year for a household? Be reasonable here. I know wii owners who still haven't bought more than 5 games since launch because that's enough for them to entertain their guests. As long as the Move has at least 5 games I would enjoy I'll buy it. Sigh let's face it. You don't like the Move. You haven't tried as everyone else. You have never said anything good about it. You make up one random reason after the other on Move related threads and frankly your making absolute no sense. If you do not like it so much, don't post in these threads. It's getting tiring |
Nope, I want gaming to be 'fun' no matter how lame that fun may appear to you.
Get more than just Move? Gawd! Most people (regular people) don't give a crap about every game Sony has released thus far on the PS3. Its a simple fact, and whether or not they tack on some motion controls isn't going to make them like the games any more than they already do. If people were buying the PS3 for Sony's games then they would have bought a hell of a lot more of them! Sony doesn't get it, they aim for a hardcore market and they miss pretty much everyone else.
If they release 20 games with the move about 50% of them will suck, its mathematics. Then that leaves 5 each casual/hardcore and out of those perhaps at most on average 1 or 2 will be compelling. Thats simply not enough to really justify any form of expenditure unless you've already made up your mind sight unseen that you want the interface.
Why will the move fail? Because Sony has already failed. Its as simple as that. Their first party games don't cross even a 10% attach rate threshold very often because they suck at giving them a wide appeal. They aren't going to suddently turn around after failing for 3 generations thus far at releasing wide appeal content and suddenly pull a couple of home runs. Its obvious they are going to fail with Move because they haven't got it in them to succeed. Nintendo wins because they released several home run titles this generation, much more than Sony has ever released in their history.
WilliamWatts said:
Wii Sports has difficulty levels, obviously you don't know what you're talking about. Oh and where exactly have the tacked on motion control games succeeded so admirably compared to the ones designed for it from the ground up? |
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wow, talk about missing the point. I never said Wii sports didn't have difficulty levels. Are you really that paranoid about criticism of the Wii that you need to imagine it? My point was that your statement that more accuracy would 'scare' away casuals is ridiculous.
That statement pretty much means that it will fail.
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Guys just ignore WilliamWatts, he is a complete Fanboy just trying to stir up trouble.
Anyways, nice words Tretton, glad it won't be mandatory. Though they should still make a hardcore game that is specifically made for Move. Also, FPS with Move > Dualshock.
Did people actually think Move was going to replace Dualshock? I mean seriously, if you think it's going to fail because you won't be required to use Move then you're mistaken. Why would any company force an add-on on you and get rid of what had been working for them for almost their entire gaming career.
It would be like if Nintendo came out with a new type of Wii Controller. Then tell you that all upcoming games would be made specifically for that controller rendering the WiiMote obsolete, yeah that would be smart.
There is definitely more to list that I want, but that's my main focus there.
"So we will have a SKU available that has the controllers, has the Eye, and a game build in for under $100"
Notice controllers (plural). So it seems Jack is saying Move+Sub+camera+game=$99.99.
@ WilliamWatts OK, we get it. You hate Sony, you think the PS3 sucks, Move is doomed and brings nothing to the table for gaming and Wii rulez. Thanks for the heads up and we've all been well and truly warned. Your job here is done.
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