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Lostplanet22 said:
Severance...You don't need to speak with every character in Mass Effect 2. it is all optional;

If you don't like it then just don't speak to all of them;.....

This right here.....the beauty of ME is that it can be as deep as you want it to be....yes you can go through the main story and go through minimal cut-scenes but the real meat of the game is its characters and you wont appreciate them if you dont put the time to get to understand them......it is a choice.



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This is quite the stretch. Last time I checked, I didn't have to do a QTE for Sheppard taking a piss on the Normandy.



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Some of you people act as if the PC doesn't exist....



Look at page 4, post 3, to some of you wanting Severance's gamertag.



Um. Its a interactive dialogue system. That isn't a cut-scene.



Facts straight please.

360 fans font say those games are movies.

REVIEWS DO!

Mass Effect 2 talking parts are not cutscenes, but are in every RPG that is any good. talkibng is vital in RPG's. That is not cutscenes.



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The majority of MGS4 and Heavy Rain consist of either movies or quicktime cut-scenes and mini-games. This isn't so in Mass Effect. There is open universe traveling, searching for items, weapons, missions, ugrading your player, choosing classes, side-missions and more, complete action with gunfights and choice of powers. You control your partners powers and control who joins you in battle. The cut scenes are apart of the gameplay so it feels like you are the player like an "Space Opera" RPG should be. It's called a Space Opera because it has a deep and gripping space storyline (IE: Star Trek, Star Wars, Serenity movies).



PlaystaionGamer said:
to be fair its like this

AMAZING PS3 exclusives like HR MGS4 will be trolled by the people who wish they had them

AMAZING multiplat games like mass effect will be trolled by people who dont have them on there system

I have MGS4....and I will be getting HR. They are practically movies. The creator of Heavy Rain cage is a Gaming developer who wishes he was a film director and he masks his film visions with gaming, which is why HR is borderline movie. MGS4 would've been more of a game if Hideo Kojima was given the full amount of Blu Ray space he demanded from Sony. Of course Sony did not let him fulfill his vision, so MGS4 came out half-assed. The reasoning for this? Sony didn't want the world to see the inconvenience of even Blu Ray's limited space for Kojima's expansive mind. Two Blu Ray discs would've been needed to fulfill his vision.



Haven't started ME yet... currently playing DAO and damn there is just too much talking... I mean I like it, but why is there 3 options to say the same thing differently when they don't even have different consequences? I end up saving before each conversation and it takes for ever...

I'm really gonna enjoy my second playthrough where I don't care what people say cause I already heard it :p

I complain but I still like it. ME's gonna be fun :p



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selnor said:
Facts straight please.

360 fans font say those games are movies.

REVIEWS DO!

Mass Effect 2 talking parts are not cutscenes, but are in every RPG that is any good. talkibng is vital in RPG's. That is not cutscenes.

God I agree with selnor, the world has come to an end!

MGS cutscene = toilet break > sandwich time > wash the car > go shopping > be back and watch the end of that cutscene

ME2 "cutscenes" = avoidable, not really cutscenes, but RPG parts where you discover more about given person, interactive, won't move on unless you do something

Real cutscenes in ME2 are like 3-4 and not long enough to make up for one MGS4 cutscenes.But both games are amongst my top 3 this gen.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:

The majority of MGS4 and Heavy Rain consist of either movies or quicktime cut-scenes and mini-games. This isn't so in Mass Effect. There is open universe traveling, searching for items, weapons, missions, ugrading your player, choosing classes, side-missions and more, complete action with gunfights and choice of powers. You control your partners powers and control who joins you in battle. The cut scenes are apart of the gameplay so it feels like you are the player like an "Space Opera" RPG should be. It's called a Space Opera because it has a deep and gripping space storyline (IE: Star Trek, Star Wars, Serenity movies).

It's called "space opera" for a completely different reason. Here's the quote of an writer who coined the term:

Wilson Tucker said:

In these hectic days of phrase-coining, we offer one. Westerns are called "horse operas," the morning housewife tear-jerkers are called "soap operas," For the hacky, grinding, stinking, outworn space-ship yarn, or world-saving for that matter, we offer "space opera."

Space operas at the time and nowadays considered a 'low genre' compared to 'high literature' of sci-fi (maybe, with the exception of Simmons's 'Hyperion' novels, and early pioneers like Asimov's 'Foundation' series). That's not mine opinion, but public opinion, like it or not.