how is 35 gigs on a bluray sacrificing anything.

in no way can i say that kz2 will match crysis2 on pc but as far as the console versions go im positive sonys first party devs will beat out anything cryengine 3 is pumping out in multiplatform or 360 exclusive .

many of you are stating killzone2 uses tricks and has sloppy textures ..?? please you never even played the game cause your fanboy goggles are blinded by unreal3, if you did play the game and witnessed it in hd you could easily say its in the top 5 for best looking game on any platform same goes with uncharted2 and gow3, kz2 ground textures, wall textures ,lighting particle effects, character models and motion is some of the most top notch stuff out there and kz3 will look even better.

ive seen the gdc crysis 2 clips and it does not look any better than kz2 , the particle effects are pretty much identical to what killzone 2 is doing and the textures are actually worse then killzone 2, crysis 2 will remain graphics king only on high end pcs and sonys exclusives are a very close second , its the truth sorry.

oh and the crysis 2 clips in the gdc demo where they showed the pc 360 ps3 , the pc beat them both out by far but ps3 was marginally better than 360s , it looked less washed out and the detail and lighting overall was better, again its the truth sorry

Do you have anything to contribute other than, "durp de durr fanboy goggles PS3 games look better and that's just the way it is?" Because this is the most useless post in the thread yet.

You accuse people of wearing fanboy goggles and then start talking about Crysis 2 on the 360?

I hate to be the one to break it to you but the 360 ISN'T EVEN IN THIS CONVERSATION.

And /facepalm at anyone who brings up Blu-Ray as a selling point for the PS3's power. The Blu-Ray player on the PS3 reads at a similar speed to the 360's DVD drive and the optical disc is FAR AND AWAY the slowest method of transferring information on either the 360 or PS3.

Incredibly slow read time + massive file size = a performance DOWNGRADE.

Which is why the PS3 still uses several compression methods to run a game, just like the 360 does. It's necessary unless those files are off-loaded to the HDD, which is several times faster than any optical drive.

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said, until Crysis 2 comes out onto consoles, then the games he mentioned are at the top in terms of graphical presentation on consoles. He admitted that the PS3 can't match up to the PC, but he stated what we all knew and that is that Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 look the best among consoles. I agree with him, you do have your fanboy goggles on pretty tight, because you seem to be just  personally attacking anyone that doesn't share your opinion.

No I personally attacked him because his post was chock full of nerdly smugness and pretty much nothing else.

I would start comparing games with Crysis 2 when Killzone 3 and Gears of War 3 are out.

Everything else is just...not right.
Killzone 2 is last year and Crysis 2 is the future,especially the PC Version will blow everything away on the graphics point.

I hate to burst your bubble, but KZ2 was last year and Crysis 1 was 3 years ago. Time has nothing to do with it.

Try name calling again and I'll report you for your ignorance. 

I will not quit with resolution comparisons as anyone who knows anything about graphics will understand that rendering at 1920x1080 is requiring a shed load more computational power than a game rendering at 1024x600.  For the record I actually game at 1920x1200 on my PC too anyway at framerates in excess of 120.  That means my PC is performing roughly 4 times the amount of work graphically with BETTER textures, better anti aliasing and more FPS.  Are you really so uneducated as to suggest this doesn't prove the PS3 is a LONG way behind my PC in terms of actual capability.

If you insist on saying the PS3 is better than any PC then you will end up looking an idiot but feel free to shoot yourself in your foot, less than 100 posts and people will already be labelling you. 

I just did prove you wrong by the way but because my point decimated yours it cannot count in your eyes, thats pathetic debating by the way buddy.

The thing i hate most about KZ2 is Rico he should STFU and GTFO.
There should be an option to shoot him in the brain if he doesn't shut his mouth.

Calm down, everyone. No need to start insulting each other over this. Prove your point through your argument, not insults.