Sony never had the means for getting an attach rate as high as the 360 or Wii. Its because they take the easy way out. Its easier to make a game focusing on a niche that it is to get a wide swathe of people to enjoy a game. Its easier to create a decent story and a decent gimmick than it is to truely craft a truely huge franchise. Gameplay is the hardest to craft which is one very good reason why they are as deserving of their current standing as Nintendo are.  Nintendo are truely masters of the gameplay experience which is why they have so many games which sell so much and yet they cannot be copied. People play games, not movies.

As for brands it probably goes DS > Wii >>> Playstation >> PSP with Xbox being roughly equal to Playstation. You just keep telling yourself that the Playstation brand is the biggest but that was a long time ago.

Sony haven't done jack for innovation. What have they successfully innovated? Nothing really stands out as being grasped by the general public. Their biggest games have been clones or inspired by other games with the only exception being Gran Turismo which was innovation a couple of generations ago.

Nintendo has the highest quality 1st party developers. Sony have Jack. High quality developers create phenomenoms and Nintendo have: Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Mario 2D or 3D, Nintendogs, Brain Age, Pokemon, Animal Crossings. The ones in blue were created for just this current generation. Sony has no phenomenoms so they cannot compare at all.

My point is that price is not a huge factor. At the end, people will get the console they prefer, b/c of the software that's available

When you launch at $600 and your competitors are $200-$350 cheaper than you... Price is a factor, no matter what you say.

The price was reasonable between 6-12 months after launch. 6 being Europe and 12 being U.S/Japan.

It only does everything!

"Ok" It still costed more than the launch PS3 did in the USA before the slim came. Now its still $200 more expensive than a PS3 in the USA. And more than $100 more expensive than a 360 over here. PS3 has always been overpriced here in Europe, cause it seems that Sony fanboys are blind over here.

It was still affordable. Since it was under the PS2 launch price at that first price cut so I don't think price was ever a factor in Europe. As for America, the Xbox 360 was $50 cheaper @ $350 and being tarnished by reliability problems. I don't think price hurt the PS3 nearly as much as a lack of quality games vs the Xbox 360 at the time. Consumers don't take promises from companies very seriously and they judge what is available at the time. Microsoft got out Halo 3 and Sony got out nothing much in particular by the end of 2007 and the rest is history.

Then how come we don't see ps3 destroying the competition now? It's the same as in the last gen. Wii is $200 and Ps3 is $300. How come we don't the ps3 selling more than the wii?

Innovation? I said effective innovation, not some nichified game. Effective innovation is a game which stands proud at the top of its genre. Copyers get 2nd best or worse in most cases and Sony aren't top of the game anywhere. Sony are at best Pepsi to the Coke which is Nintendo. The third parties to which you ascribe the 'Playstation diversity' aren't going to help Sony one bit. They will go where the money is and since Sony doesn't make games which stand out too far from the crowd you can replace one Sony game with pretty much any substitute third party game if you wanted with few exceptions.

Sony has nothing in comparison to Nintendo. Quality is a word has no actual meaning on its own. Its an undefined word which means quality is a meaningless concept for games. Sony would do a hell of a lot better if the dropped their goal of making everything a graphical masterpiece and tried some real gameplay for a change. Noone bats an eyelid that the Master Chief fights alone except when in Coop and yet they neglect this important feature. Millions played through Gears of War in Coop from beginning to end. Noone outside of a select few believe that pretty = fun for games.

Edit: Funny coincidence! My copy of Heavy Rain just arrived as I clicked 'post'. Sorry im out as I have a game to play.

This. We need software!