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joeorc on 14 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
I some of these posts are pointless. I really doubt sony would have EVER released or announced move if nintendo hadn't risked it all with the wii specially since sony thrashed motion controls so much.

I think they would of released it... It just wouldn't look like it does, wouldn't have those acelometors or whatever and would pretty much just be tracking movement via the camera.

Also, it likely would of got little to no advertisment, very few developers would be working on it and would of been as ignored as the Eye Toy.

 

Also by the way... if you consider the Eye toy the sole gensis of the PS Move... Sony was still coping...

Since the Eye Toy was a ripoff of the "Dream Eye" for the Dreamcast.  They didn't even really change the name all that much.

umm. did you not read what i posted.

IF they would have released it it would be like it would be today, because the guy who created the concept is the same guy who created the EYE TOY

he was doing thing's back in 2000, and 2001 with a "wand with a sphere on top" in 2005 Sony hat the patent application already written up.

the concept has not changed since he made it.

as for a rip off of the dream eye:

Dreamcast Digital Video Camera Unveiled

Sega promises video phone capabilities, and hints at future in-game use.

by IGN Staff

February 16, 2000 - At a public showing in Tokyo today, Sega of Japan revealed the full load of details on their previously announced "Internet Digital Camera," DreamEye. DreamEye is a camera that connects to the Dreamcast via the controller port, giving the system video capturing capabilities. Sound is received by the included microphone headset, which attaches to the controller using a connection device similar to what we saw of Seaman.

once again:

The EYETOY Was ALSO IN DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERY SAME TIME

1999-2001

dr. MARKS WAS ALREADY DOING SOFTWARE WITH HIS EYE TOY IT WAS ALREADY WORKING

He was already at Sony working on the same IDEA.

A web camera for a game console

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

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Khuutra on 14 March 2010

I don't think that this is a very constructive way to frame or begin this discussion.



joeorc on 14 March 2010
Khuutra said:
I don't think that this is a very constructive way to frame or begin this discussion.

what ever gave you that IDEA...?

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

MontanaHatchet on 14 March 2010

I'm amazed that a thread like this could make it to Page 2. Is this how far Vgchartz has fallen?!!



 

 

gamefreak4ever on 14 March 2010

I believe Sony is doing what all the companies is doing....whatever to make money...



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SuperAdrianK on 14 March 2010

I think this is the worst out of all the playstation move threads, it should be locked.




              

Darc Requiem on 14 March 2010
MontanaHatchet said:
I'm amazed that a thread like this could make it to Page 2. Is this how far Vgchartz has fallen?!!

I'm not surprised in the least. Barring moderator intervention it will go far beyond 2 pages.



Kasz216 on 14 March 2010
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
I some of these posts are pointless. I really doubt sony would have EVER released or announced move if nintendo hadn't risked it all with the wii specially since sony thrashed motion controls so much.

I think they would of released it... It just wouldn't look like it does, wouldn't have those acelometors or whatever and would pretty much just be tracking movement via the camera.

Also, it likely would of got little to no advertisment, very few developers would be working on it and would of been as ignored as the Eye Toy.

 

Also by the way... if you consider the Eye toy the sole gensis of the PS Move... Sony was still coping...

Since the Eye Toy was a ripoff of the "Dream Eye" for the Dreamcast.  They didn't even really change the name all that much.

umm. did you not read what i posted.

IF they would have released it it would be like it would be today, because the guy who created the concept is the same guy who created the EYE TOY

he was doing thing's back in 2000, and 2001 with a "wand with a sphere on top" in 2005 Sony hat the patent application already written up.

the concept has not changed since he made it.

as for a rip off of the dream eye:

Dreamcast Digital Video Camera Unveiled

Sega promises video phone capabilities, and hints at future in-game use.

by IGN Staff

February 16, 2000 - At a public showing in Tokyo today, Sega of Japan revealed the full load of details on their previously announced "Internet Digital Camera," DreamEye. DreamEye is a camera that connects to the Dreamcast via the controller port, giving the system video capturing capabilities. Sound is received by the included microphone headset, which attaches to the controller using a connection device similar to what we saw of Seaman.

once again:

The EYETOY Was ALSO IN DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERY SAME TIME

1999-2001

dr. MARKS WAS ALREADY DOING SOFTWARE WITH HIS EYE TOY IT WAS ALREADY WORKING

He was already at Sony working on the same IDEA.

A web camera for a game console

 

I read what you said... your posts are just reaching to find a conclusion you find more palatable.

 

Technological development diverges to get a concept done... then once a concept is successful accomplished, all of that divergence starts to converge towards the working model making change and forming what they have to be as much like the successful product as they can without infringing on patents.

Sony shouldn't be ashamed of it... but it'd be silly to say it didn't happen.

For example... one of the points of convergence by sony is the accelemetors so that 3D movement can be realized... all the stuff your "showing" was 2D movement only, it's "3D" movement being a trick based on the camera.  The tech had nothing that could track for example if you decided to thrust the wand towards the screen.  It was PURE 2D movement.



joeorc on 14 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
I some of these posts are pointless. I really doubt sony would have EVER released or announced move if nintendo hadn't risked it all with the wii specially since sony thrashed motion controls so much.

I think they would of released it... It just wouldn't look like it does, wouldn't have those acelometors or whatever and would pretty much just be tracking movement via the camera.

Also, it likely would of got little to no advertisment, very few developers would be working on it and would of been as ignored as the Eye Toy.

 

Also by the way... if you consider the Eye toy the sole gensis of the PS Move... Sony was still coping...

Since the Eye Toy was a ripoff of the "Dream Eye" for the Dreamcast.  They didn't even really change the name all that much.

umm. did you not read what i posted.

IF they would have released it it would be like it would be today, because the guy who created the concept is the same guy who created the EYE TOY

he was doing thing's back in 2000, and 2001 with a "wand with a sphere on top" in 2005 Sony hat the patent application already written up.

the concept has not changed since he made it.

as for a rip off of the dream eye:

Dreamcast Digital Video Camera Unveiled

Sega promises video phone capabilities, and hints at future in-game use.

by IGN Staff

February 16, 2000 - At a public showing in Tokyo today, Sega of Japan revealed the full load of details on their previously announced "Internet Digital Camera," DreamEye. DreamEye is a camera that connects to the Dreamcast via the controller port, giving the system video capturing capabilities. Sound is received by the included microphone headset, which attaches to the controller using a connection device similar to what we saw of Seaman.

once again:

The EYETOY Was ALSO IN DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERY SAME TIME

1999-2001

dr. MARKS WAS ALREADY DOING SOFTWARE WITH HIS EYE TOY IT WAS ALREADY WORKING

He was already at Sony working on the same IDEA.

A web camera for a game console

 

I read what you said... your posts are just reaching to find a conclusion you find more palatable.

 

Technological development diverges to get a concept done... then once a concept is successful accomplished, all of that divergence starts to converge towards the working model making change and forming what they have to be as much like the successful product as they can without infringing on patents.

Sony shouldn't be ashamed of it... but it'd be silly to say it didn't happen.

For example... one of the points of convergence by sony is the accelemetors so that 3D movement can be realized... all the stuff your "showing" was 2D movement only, it's "3D" movement being a trick based on the camera.  The tech had nothing that could track for example if you decided to thrust the wand towards the screen.  It was PURE 2D movement.

mmm read it again:

in the year 2000's SIGGRAPH

To show off some of the hardware's potential, Dr. Marx put together a demo called the ''medieval chamber.'' He attached a camera to the PlayStation console, and then wrote a program that would translate the movements of a sword in his hand into images on the TV screen. Although it relies on a single camera, the sword on the screen moves in three dimensions.

''We can do that because we know the size of the objects in the screen,'' Dr. Marx said. ''When it leans toward the screen it gets fatter at the top and skinnier at the bottom, and we can calculate that.''

Dr. Marx's 3-D imaging know-how is rooted in Stanford University's Aerospace Robotics Laboratory, where he researched his thesis.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Kasz216 on 14 March 2010
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
I some of these posts are pointless. I really doubt sony would have EVER released or announced move if nintendo hadn't risked it all with the wii specially since sony thrashed motion controls so much.

I think they would of released it... It just wouldn't look like it does, wouldn't have those acelometors or whatever and would pretty much just be tracking movement via the camera.

Also, it likely would of got little to no advertisment, very few developers would be working on it and would of been as ignored as the Eye Toy.

 

Also by the way... if you consider the Eye toy the sole gensis of the PS Move... Sony was still coping...

Since the Eye Toy was a ripoff of the "Dream Eye" for the Dreamcast.  They didn't even really change the name all that much.

umm. did you not read what i posted.

IF they would have released it it would be like it would be today, because the guy who created the concept is the same guy who created the EYE TOY

he was doing thing's back in 2000, and 2001 with a "wand with a sphere on top" in 2005 Sony hat the patent application already written up.

the concept has not changed since he made it.

as for a rip off of the dream eye:

Dreamcast Digital Video Camera Unveiled

Sega promises video phone capabilities, and hints at future in-game use.

by IGN Staff

February 16, 2000 - At a public showing in Tokyo today, Sega of Japan revealed the full load of details on their previously announced "Internet Digital Camera," DreamEye. DreamEye is a camera that connects to the Dreamcast via the controller port, giving the system video capturing capabilities. Sound is received by the included microphone headset, which attaches to the controller using a connection device similar to what we saw of Seaman.

once again:

The EYETOY Was ALSO IN DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERY SAME TIME

1999-2001

dr. MARKS WAS ALREADY DOING SOFTWARE WITH HIS EYE TOY IT WAS ALREADY WORKING

He was already at Sony working on the same IDEA.

A web camera for a game console

 

I read what you said... your posts are just reaching to find a conclusion you find more palatable.

 

Technological development diverges to get a concept done... then once a concept is successful accomplished, all of that divergence starts to converge towards the working model making change and forming what they have to be as much like the successful product as they can without infringing on patents.

Sony shouldn't be ashamed of it... but it'd be silly to say it didn't happen.

For example... one of the points of convergence by sony is the accelemetors so that 3D movement can be realized... all the stuff your "showing" was 2D movement only, it's "3D" movement being a trick based on the camera.  The tech had nothing that could track for example if you decided to thrust the wand towards the screen.  It was PURE 2D movement.

mmm read it again:

in the year 2000's

To show off some of the hardware's potential, Dr. Marx put together a demo called the ''medieval chamber.'' He attached a camera to the PlayStation console, and then wrote a program that would translate the movements of a sword in his hand into images on the TV screen. Although it relies on a single camera, the sword on the screen moves in three dimensions.

I think you need to read my post again.  Also look at those early demos... or even more recent demos that just came out recently.  When you move the wand up and down like you would a sword... it moves in 3D soley because it tracks the wand moveing downwards.  However if you were to THRUST the want like say how you would toast a beer stein... it would not move in 3D.

Nothing involving real 3D showed up until well after the Wii was released.