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joeorc on 14 March 2010
axt113 said:
^No, people at E3 2006 were standing in huge lines for Wii software, they were hyped after the first titles were announced, even nongamers, the same feel isn't there for the move

why would it be expected to be that way ?..it's not even close to being released yet.

Hell just a couple of software title's have only been even announced. quite a bit of time until Fall and for e3 for that matter.



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deathcape on 14 March 2010
axt113 said:
^No, people at E3 2006 were standing in huge lines for Wii software, they were hyped after the first titles were announced, even nongamers, the same feel isn't there for the move

^this

 

back when wiisports was also in it's beginning stages....

if sony's sad pre-alpha version of a game can't be as fun as wiisports they should quit, since they don't know how to make good and fun games



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joeorc on 14 March 2010
deathcape said:
axt113 said:
^No, people at E3 2006 were standing in huge lines for Wii software, they were hyped after the first titles were announced, even nongamers, the same feel isn't there for the move

^this

 

back when wiisports was also in it's beginning stages....

if sony's sad pre-alpha version of a game can't be as fun as wiisports they should quit, since they don't know how to make good and fun games

yea since killzone 1 was not that good , Sony should not have invested into making Killzone 2..

or better yet they should just get out of making game's altogether.../sarcasm

 



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jarrod on 15 March 2010
Xoj said:
axt113 said:
gimmickyWii said:

Lets be honest, the Move is a Wii-mote knockoff (or a wii-mote inspired if you're in denial). So they are both in direct competition for the Wii's dominated demographic-the casuals.

Assuming the PSmove will be successful, Nintendo will most likely be the one to suffer. Because "motion control" has been Nintendo's key differentiation regarding competition & business strategy.

[natal not included in this discussion because very little information has been released about it]

Why would Nintendo be afraid, Move doesn't expand the market, or capture Nintendo's audience, in fact it does nothing that the Wii doesn't already do, for less money and with Nintendo games, basically Move adds no value to the market that isn't already there.

augmented reality and 1-1 tracking :p- that it may capture nintendo casual market it's yet to see.

Wii's been capable of 1:1 tracking since last June.  The killer app for it's already sold 14 million units.



Xoj on 15 March 2010
jarrod said:
Xoj said:
axt113 said:
gimmickyWii said:

Lets be honest, the Move is a Wii-mote knockoff (or a wii-mote inspired if you're in denial). So they are both in direct competition for the Wii's dominated demographic-the casuals.

Assuming the PSmove will be successful, Nintendo will most likely be the one to suffer. Because "motion control" has been Nintendo's key differentiation regarding competition & business strategy.

[natal not included in this discussion because very little information has been released about it]

Why would Nintendo be afraid, Move doesn't expand the market, or capture Nintendo's audience, in fact it does nothing that the Wii doesn't already do, for less money and with Nintendo games, basically Move adds no value to the market that isn't already there.

augmented reality and 1-1 tracking :p- that it may capture nintendo casual market it's yet to see.

Wii's been capable of 1:1 tracking since last June.  The killer app for it's already sold 14 million units.

it's a addon, most of wii can't though. it wasn't introduced until later, also, it's not used on all games either.



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Staude on 15 March 2010
axt113 said:
gimmickyWii said:

Lets be honest, the Move is a Wii-mote knockoff (or a wii-mote inspired if you're in denial). So they are both in direct competition for the Wii's dominated demographic-the casuals.

Assuming the PSmove will be successful, Nintendo will most likely be the one to suffer. Because "motion control" has been Nintendo's key differentiation regarding competition & business strategy.

[natal not included in this discussion because very little information has been released about it]

Why would Nintendo be afraid, Move doesn't expand the market, or capture Nintendo's audience, in fact it does nothing that the Wii doesn't already do, for less money and with Nintendo games, basically Move adds no value to the market that isn't already there.

It does. Everything the camera can do, is something you can't do with the wii mote. In other words, thing's like head tracking, face recognition and voice recognition.



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realill on 15 March 2010

They should not fear it, they should concern about it. Nintendo software lineup for wiimote is very strong and Sony would require few years to at least cover the same amount.



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hsrob on 15 March 2010
Xoj said:
jarrod said:
Xoj said:
axt113 said:
gimmickyWii said:

Lets be honest, the Move is a Wii-mote knockoff (or a wii-mote inspired if you're in denial). So they are both in direct competition for the Wii's dominated demographic-the casuals.

Assuming the PSmove will be successful, Nintendo will most likely be the one to suffer. Because "motion control" has been Nintendo's key differentiation regarding competition & business strategy.

[natal not included in this discussion because very little information has been released about it]

Why would Nintendo be afraid, Move doesn't expand the market, or capture Nintendo's audience, in fact it does nothing that the Wii doesn't already do, for less money and with Nintendo games, basically Move adds no value to the market that isn't already there.

augmented reality and 1-1 tracking :p- that it may capture nintendo casual market it's yet to see.

Wii's been capable of 1:1 tracking since last June.  The killer app for it's already sold 14 million units.

it's a addon, most of wii can't though. it wasn't introduced until later, also, it's not used on all games either.

So is Move, yet there are already 15+ million WM+ enabled systems out there and it's likely to be closer to 20 million by the time Move is released.

Neither will Move and for that matter it doesn't need to be, for either system.  Motion controls should be used wisely and where they can enhance the game experience, not as an obligatory replacement for controls that already work very well.  Motion plus wasn't used in Metroid Prime 3 or Mario Galaxy and I'd argue that their implimentation would add little to either of those games.



megaman79 on 15 March 2010

@hsrob, exactly. People who find the launch titles on move to be oversimplified won't realise that Sony probably intended to do that in order to attract new gamers.



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axt113 on 15 March 2010
joeorc said:
axt113 said:
^No, people at E3 2006 were standing in huge lines for Wii software, they were hyped after the first titles were announced, even nongamers, the same feel isn't there for the move

why would it be expected to be that way ?..it's not even close to being released yet.

Hell just a couple of software title's have only been even announced. quite a bit of time until Fall and for e3 for that matter.


  They hype for Wii began almost the day the controller was first shown, its been well past that for the move



Rumors indicate that it is planning on following the first approach, sticking a new, motion-sensitive controller onto an existing console. Our perspective is that this is the worst of the three options.

-Clayton Christensen back in 2007 already knew Move would be a bad idea