It's funny watching this argument go around in circles.

On the copy/ripoff side, there are three main arguments

1. Holly crap they look identical, they even have a nunchuck!? It's pretty rediculous how Sony copied the form factor and I don't see how this one can be argued.

2. Sony repeatedly chastised, mocked and dismissed the Wiimote, pretty much right up until they announced their own. It's not like they ever said "Actually, Sony values motion controls and have been working on it a long time. We're just not quite ready yet"

3. The PS3 got absolutely clobbered by the Wii so this is Sony's attempt to do what Nintendo's console was. Does anyone here actually believe that the Move would have come out if not for the Wii? If one company says "We're going to do what their doing", that's copying.

On the "Not a copy" side I see two arguments

1. They were working on the technology in 2003. So? I'm not going to get in to an argument over who developed some technology first. Hell, companies were working on things that work similar to Mii's and Avatars in the gameboy and snes days. But those things never actually made it out. It doesn't matter when Nintendo started working on motion controls (I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.), but what matters is Nintendo not only released it, but made it viable in the market so that other companies would feel obliged to copy it.

2. The technology is different/better. Well yeah! If it was the exact same technology they'd get sued. But an electric car is still a car. Employing different means to achieve the same thing is still achieving the same thing. And yes it can do more than the Wiimote. Notice how it came out years after the Wiimote? If my R&D department has the mandate of "Here's a Wiimote that was designed off of tech that's a couple years old now. Make something that works better with our technology" that's what you're going to do. I imagine Nintendo also has a lot of tech that works better than the Wiimote right now.



Too many people are getting caught up on this whole Sony had motion technology before thing. If it weren't for the Wii, Move and it's technology might never have seen the light of day.

Uh, all these exact same publishers have also complained about HD sales in the past as well. They've all had successes and failures on all platforms, Wii included.

Copies eh?

Nintendo made a success out of theirs, but Sony is hardly copying.

EyeToy Play Sports came out after Wii Sports actually.

Check again.

Okay....

Wii Sports: 11-19-06

EyeToy Play Sports: 12-31-06

actually, wikipedia has the wrong date (as usual), but either way, those two games came out at essentially the same time, so there is no way either one copied the other. Wii Sports wasn't announced until way to late for Sony to get a copy out, and I doubt Sony announced EyeToy Play Sports early enough for Nintendo to copy it, nor would they have cared at that point.

Also, as Rolstoppable pointed out, they play very differently, unlike the Move using the same "tech demos" as the Wii used.

odd how no-one blames Natal on Eyetoy games.
Surely they're just as superficially similar?

if you know, it was not just a small part in it's function's it was a big part. do not disreguard one of it's core part's just because hey "it only used ultrasound" like it's nothing when it used burst signal's to transmit. without doing that the powerglove would not have worked the same way.

as a matter of fact the ultrasound technology they used was a big part think about this for a sec. just like sonar or radar of a bat with sonar location.

notice:

Zimmerman built the first prototype that demonstrated finger flex measurement and hand position tracking using a pair of ultrasonic transmitters

The ultrasonic speakers take turns transmitting a short burst (a few pulses) of 40 kHz sound and the system measures the time it takes for the sound to reach the microphones. A triangulation calculation is performed to determine the X, Y, Z location of each of the two speakers, which specifies the yaw and roll of the hand. The only dimension it can't calculate is the pitch of the hand, since the hand can pitch without moving the location of the two ultrasonic speakers.

with out it certain game's would not have been able to determine certain thing's about your postion because just like a Bat used sonar to tel it certain thing's this is doing thing's like that.

like i said please do not disreguard something that's a core because you think is somehow just a trivial function

LOL

copy!

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