Some people here are so dumb. Just look at sony's conference, that clearly a pale copy of nintendo casual approach. Say what you want, I can recall so many people saying motion control were shit and how traditonal control were better than waggle. Now what you have? A "shut up Nintendo, that's technology evolution. "

Don't get me wrong, sometimes Nintendo really piss me off. But here reggie is just god damn right. They are driving the industrie. You really think Sony would have done a "move thing" if wii was a fail? Give me a break!

Oh and please stop with the Nintendo will copy HD. HD is just the logical evolution of graphics improvement going on since 20 years. Microsoft normaly have a really good PR and have done a good job with the xbox. But Sony have been bitching everybody for years. Stop calling a cat, a dog and face it. Sony have followed the thread and motion control is just the next step in gaming. Comptetion is good, it brings better games, but you can still see who is lame...

You must be new to gaming.  The Wii is the first Nintendo home console to be underpowered compared to the competition.  And many times they've been the most powerful.

Well, I would think sony is very stupid if they launched the move knowing that wii was a failure.

Anyway, what people dont see is that leaving from the fanboy talk "this copies that" and "No it doesnt, that copied other thing" the only thing that matters is companies trying to give costumers more options and the consumer will decide which one they like the most.

you may have a point there:

Invention: Magic wand for gamers

• 16:41 23 August 2005 by Barry Fox

For over 30 years, Barry Fox has trawled the world's weird and wonderful patent applications each week, digging out the most exciting, intriguing and even terrifying new ideas. His column, Invention, is now available exclusively online. Please send us your feedback.

Magic wand

PlayStation gamers are always looking for exciting new ways to control the onscreen action, but using a camera to track a player's body movement has not worked reliably, admits Sony. The camera gets confused by other things in the room.

Sony's new idea is to plug a webcam into the console, and give the gamer a handheld wand similar to a pocket flashlight. The wand has a battery, a few mouse-like buttons and several different coloured LEDs that can be switched on and off in various combinations.

By pressing the buttons and waving the wand towards the webcam, the gamer can click to shoot aliens, drag-and-drop images on screen and navigate menus.

The webcam is tuned to see only pure bright colours and map their motion in space, so it can ignore ordinary room lights. And if two people have wands with different coloured LEDs, they can play against each other.

Read about Sony's gaming wand here (pdf format).

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7890

Lol nice find

thank's by the way there was an article on sony's motion technology from the new york time's back in 2003 I posted the article:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=103904&page=1&str=1729889309#

Cartridges were Old Tech.  Small Discs were Old Tech.  DvDs are becoming old Tech.  Now do you get what I'm saying?

N64 was technically more powerful, but there was no way they could show what the PS1 could, having Nintendo using cartridges.

I know the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, Gamecube also came out a year later. 

Either way, I'm not saying them using older tech is bad or anything.  If it works for them, well then it works for them.  Look at the Wii old hardware with new type of Wiimote (lol).

first off. didn't like motion control then. still dun like it now.. i dun see the appeal. i'll be waiting for virtual reality or something of the like. as for the moment, i'll stick with the awesome gamecube n ps controllers.

secondly, no one said nintendo wasn't the one "driving the industry" with innovations. heck except for a few headless chickens on this site, most ppl will admit nintendo has been known to be the one company to take risks.

thirdly, do i really think sony would have done a "move thing" if the wii was a fail? obviously they wouldn't have. what shit ceo would copy a bad idea? you've got a huge success in the wii and a similar tech in the move..do i hear multiplat games on both systems all of a sudden? you give me a break!

and finally, as i've stated several times on these forums. ppl know how nintendo rolls, they innovate and they are often copied. but now show us why your product is better. it adds competition and competition is the cause for these innovations in the first place. but there's no need to boast about it and to complain when someone copies your idea. come up with something better, something new and show how you're better. some kid in my calculus class was boasting how he didn't study and still got a 90%. come say that a lil closer to me so i can stab you in the eyes with my pencil.

Nintendo was forced to use carts for the N64 because thier deals with both Sony and Phillips to provide the optical disc drive fell through.  And they most could show what the PS could.  Even RE2, which required 2 discs on the PS, was released on the N64 with all the pre-rendered CGI intact, though heavily compressed.   And there was plenty of titles on N64 that graphically would not have been possible on PS without heavy sacrifices.  One could also argue that the catridge was more advanced than the disc on some factors such as reading and writing.  You can't write to a disc and read times were painfully slow by comparison.  Durability was another problem with discs that made cartridges were more advanced.  They also protected against piracy much better.  

The Mini-DVD's of the GC were actually more advanced technology than the DVD's used in the PS2 and Xbox because the special disc drive and the encryption standard used.

The Wii uses DVD because Blu-ray and HD-DVD would have been too expensive and with BRD they'd have to pay a royalty to their bigest competitor.  Nor was it really needed given the SD graphics and texture resolution.  Few Wii titles even need to be dual layer discs.

But you seem to be fixated on the game medium as it means to call Nintendo old tech while ignoring all the high tech stuff they've been using since the NES.

Garnett said: Carl2291 said: Just like Nintendo will be embarrassed when they go HD! Innovation at its finest...   We did HD like what 4-5 years go?   We are doing motion controls now, Nintendo needs to move on and go HD.

Oh because a resolution mode makes a huge difference!

/sarcasm

If it's widescreen, it's good enough for me.