Yeah, I have to agree with this. Ignorance on the part of the consumer is probably the most common fallacious assumption that people make on this site.

Well your just not helping your cause much by going into every Reach thread and posting a bunch of Anti Halo stuff in everywhere.  Also we've given you plenty of evidence to support Reach being just as big as 3 if not bigger.  Here's a couple more points to help you out

1st.  Its the FINAL halo game made by Bungie.  "The definitive Halo made by the people who created Halo."  This is their swan song and you can bet that their fans will want to show the love they have for Bungie and the Halo series.

2nd.  ENTIRELY new multiplayer.  Halo 3's multi is very very similar to Halo 2's mostly just tighter controls, different maps, and the addition of a few new weapons and equipment.  Bungie has said many times that there will be significant new things added to multiplayer.

3rd.  MLG HATES Halo 3.  Now you might say "What does MLG have to do with Halo thats just a small percentage?"  Actually that would be incorect.  MLG is a huge deal with Halo in fact they have their own dedicated playlist for just MLG on Xbox Live and it is one of the most popular of all the playlists for Halo.  They are very very excited for Reach and to drop Halo 3.

4th.  The 360 now has a MUCH larger install base than when Halo 3 launched this will certainly reflect in first week sales.

5th.  Halo 3 is still at the top of the most played Xbox Live charts just behind MW2 and not by much at all.  This is truly incredible considering Halo 3 is going on 3 years old while MW2 is only several months old.

6th.  Halo 2 is now no longer able to played online.  This might not sound like much of a big deal but Halo 2 still had a HUGE community playing it every day, in fact it had a bigger community than prob 80% of new releases on live.  These Halo 2 players will need somewhere to go and the answer is Reach.

hopefully that will be enough for now but if you would like more examples I'm more than happy to help you out.

saying I have a fear that HALO will end up being big, is attacking me no?

You know, he did the same thing with me in another Reach sales thread. 

I still haven't read a single argument that suggests Reach won't be bigger than H3 both first week and lifetime, again, assuming that the beta goes smoothly and the reaction is positive.

Nearly everyone who has seen the engine in motion has been impressed.   The beta trailer had people buzzing hard.  Bungie wants to go out on top.  MS is going to hype it to new heights.  It's a franchise with a huge fanbase and who's previous titles are still heavily being played by almost 2 million unique users per week as of holiday time.  360's selling software very well.  It's got triple the install base.  

And the only negative people can come up with is "It's a prequel"  and "COD sold a lot"?  

I don't get it.

No leo, it's just an observation, you seem very fearful of Reach for whatever reason .. I don't know why that is.

Well said Seece, there's no doubt in my mind that Reach will sell at least as good as Halo 3 if not better.  Virtually the only people that think otherwise have never played a Halo game and are wishing it to fail.

kowenicki, i have a lot of respect for you...but really? You ask for an example of prequels that didn't outsell the game they followed and once you get a list of them your best response is "we are talking about a mutliplayer FPS"? Do historical sales trends of prequels not apply if a game is a mutliplayer FPS?

MSG3 was a solid example, yes we're playing with bigger numbers because it's a FPS and Halo, but still, shit like that just doesn't happen. In fact, are there any prequels that outsold the last game they followed??

Likewise I will likely buy Halo Reach used. I'm not hyped on Halo Reach like I was on Halo 3. Halo 3 was the shit..."Finish the Fight!". Halo Reach is....meh...that book I read about Reach that doesn't include Master Chief and I already know the outcome of. Trust me, there are plenty of people like me that aren't hyped for Reach.

And i'm pretty sure it's a safe to say that people who purchased Halo 3 used aren't going to be in long lines on launch day for Reach. 

Im not fearful, so that answers your question.

Im basing it off observation.. my FRIENDS 360 gamers (I know this is a minority) do not care about HALO anymore, they are HUGE call of duty fans. What MY FEAR is (ofcourse this is being completely negative) that COD has stolen a portion of the HALO fanbase, and some people will not get HALO REACH. That is my only fear.. if anything, look at what happened with R1 and R2..

Then again looking at the positives, the 360 does have a LARGER install base, there seems to be alot of HALO 3 players on XBL (that shows the game is still active, and people haven't moved on, so that means right there it has a huge fanbase to support), and its built on being a much better game than HALO 3 (based on what bungie has shown). But here's what I think may either do well for the game, or hurt it, it may be a good thing it isnt HALO 4 because COD fans wont think (oh another halo, the 3rd one was good, but COD4 was better) , maybe they will look at HALO REACH is a fresh experience, since that is what bungie's intention seems to be.

So there are tons of positives, that allow for the game to sell numbers well above that of HALO 3's, or at the very list similar sales.

But there are also negatives that go against it (Not a full fledged sequel, COD being the bigger shooter now on 360, possibilty that COD stole a chung of halo's fanbase), but even then, I think it all depends on how microsoft markets the game to the general consumer. 

Why? Because they didn't buy it new? considering around 28 million new Xbox owners didn't even own one when Halo 3 came out, getting it used would probably be a better deal than new. And if they fell in love with it, they'll buy Reach brand new on launch.

To say people that bought it used will not buy reach without no basis or evidence is silly.