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NKAJ on 15 March 2010
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.



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Lord Flashheart on 15 March 2010
libellule said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Another spectacular comment from Libellule

fixed ;)



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DeduS on 15 March 2010
NKAJ said:
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.

Well... we could stop paying for this whole EU-bullshit - that would cause some trouble. :D

 

Actually it would be quite nice to invest in our own country again - the EU finances are fubar. The financial burden of the EU is unjustly shared.

 

@topic: I never felt the UK was so different from the rest of Europe - actually, mentality wise, I feel way closer to the UK than to France or Italy.



 

i love xbox360 on 15 March 2010
DeduS said:
NKAJ said:
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.

Well... we could stop paying for this whole EU-bullshit - that would cause some trouble. :D

 

Actually it would be quite nice to invest in our own country again - the EU finances are fubar. The financial burden of the EU is unjustly shared.

 

@topic: I never felt the UK was so different from the rest of Europe - actually, mentality wise, I feel way closer to the UK than to France or Italy.

are you trying to say that germany pays for most of the eu??? if you do my friend then you need to do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union

 

and i agree with you im from england but the country i feel the closest to is germany having been there i have to say i love the place





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trashleg on 15 March 2010



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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DeduS on 15 March 2010
i love xbox360 said:
DeduS said:
NKAJ said:
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.

Well... we could stop paying for this whole EU-bullshit - that would cause some trouble. :D

 

Actually it would be quite nice to invest in our own country again - the EU finances are fubar. The financial burden of the EU is unjustly shared.

 

@topic: I never felt the UK was so different from the rest of Europe - actually, mentality wise, I feel way closer to the UK than to France or Italy.

are you trying to say that germany pays for most of the eu??? if you do my friend then you need to do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union

 

and i agree with you im from england but the country i feel the closest to is germany having been there i have to say i love the place

Yes I do - kind of - according to your link we pay the most, but not for the most. The chart in your link at least seems fairer than it was before, but it contains estimated data. I was referring to the past and just assumed nothing had changed. ^^

But most of the data doesn't add up, so I don't know which to trust.



 

i love xbox360 on 15 March 2010
DeduS said:
i love xbox360 said:
DeduS said:
NKAJ said:
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.

Well... we could stop paying for this whole EU-bullshit - that would cause some trouble. :D

 

Actually it would be quite nice to invest in our own country again - the EU finances are fubar. The financial burden of the EU is unjustly shared.

 

@topic: I never felt the UK was so different from the rest of Europe - actually, mentality wise, I feel way closer to the UK than to France or Italy.

are you trying to say that germany pays for most of the eu??? if you do my friend then you need to do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union

 

and i agree with you im from england but the country i feel the closest to is germany having been there i have to say i love the place

Yes I do - kind of - according to your link we pay the most, but not for the most. The chart in your link at least seems fairer than it was before, but it contains estimated data. I was referring to the past and just assumed nothing had changed. ^^

But most of the data doesn't add up, so I don't know which to trust.

well you should pay the most money into the eu as ur economy is the biggest. so it is fair(yes i no the uk dose not pay enough)





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DeduS on 15 March 2010
i love xbox360 said:
DeduS said:
i love xbox360 said:
DeduS said:
NKAJ said:
Tallgeese101 said:
Oi guys, leave the French alone. The French (and many nations in the EU) are getting billions in subsidies and all they have to do is let the Germans have a little bit of control over their lives and sacrifice a bit of their national pride.

Better this way than encouraging them to go down their more traditional route to domination of Europe.

Germany coudnt take over europe even if they wanted to .They might have been strong in 1940 but those days are over.

Well... we could stop paying for this whole EU-bullshit - that would cause some trouble. :D

 

Actually it would be quite nice to invest in our own country again - the EU finances are fubar. The financial burden of the EU is unjustly shared.

 

@topic: I never felt the UK was so different from the rest of Europe - actually, mentality wise, I feel way closer to the UK than to France or Italy.

are you trying to say that germany pays for most of the eu??? if you do my friend then you need to do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union

 

and i agree with you im from england but the country i feel the closest to is germany having been there i have to say i love the place

Yes I do - kind of - according to your link we pay the most, but not for the most. The chart in your link at least seems fairer than it was before, but it contains estimated data. I was referring to the past and just assumed nothing had changed. ^^

But most of the data doesn't add up, so I don't know which to trust.

well you should pay the most money into the eu as ur economy is the biggest. so it is fair(yes i no the uk dose not pay enough)

Yeah I know and seeing the numbers in your link it seems fine, but I've seen some "horrible" numbers before and since I don't know which are real, there's really no point in discussing them. But if you're interested:

From the German Wikipedia:

2005 || 2008 in Mio. €

Germany -7141 || -8774

France -3051 || -3843

Italy -2947 || -4101

UK -2865 || -844 (typo?)

Netherlands -2035 || -2678

Sweden -1060 || -1463

Belgium -536 || -721

Austria -365 || -356

Denmark -225 || -543

Luxembourg -93 || -22

Finland -70 || -319

 

So it seems to move in the right direction, but in the 90s and early 00s it was really out of whack.

 



 

Final-Fan on 15 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
Yeah, the NA is a bit unbalanced... but that's the problem when you base it on real geography... they couldn't of made it worth less, but there was no other ways to have invasion really.

Reminds me of the good old days, when we had over 6 people wanting to play at a time... so we made a giant Europeon map with different zones for 8-16 players....

and we never got more then 4 players at a time after it was done... making all that work worthless.

Also, since you brought up monopoly... I think it's worth noting that the Orange properties are actually the most valuable.

Yeah, I know. I've got this cool Monopoly book from 1974 or something that's really great. (Well, "valuable" is relative.  Green is the awesomest to have hotels on, but it's so expensive you can't really do it without another monopoly funding you.  Orange and Dark Blue are probably the best overall but Light Blue is the best on a budget.)

I played a game of it recently, and I wasn't doing too well. I got 2/3 of the Green, and 2/3 of the Orange, but both times the same guy took the last one. Then some bastard got the Boardwalk monopoly and started building it up, so I traded both of my Greens for the last Orange and $200. I was able to build some houses, but so was Mr. Boardwalk. But only one guy ever landed on him (going bankrupt). 

And then right at the end of the game Boardwalk was in Just Visiting so I gambled all my money on hotels; he got a 12 and I was like DAMMIT and then he got "Go back 3 spaces" and I was like MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!! And then my Green buddy landed on another hotel and Boardwalk landed on the third hotel and that was pretty much the game.

P.S.  As for your custom Risk board, that sounds pretty interesting.  Any pictures?



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Kantor on 15 March 2010
kowenicki said:
@libellule

UK = US dogs

thats pretty poor. now if i said something similar about the french id be banned no doubt.

theres loads of material... but I'll leave it.

To a certain extent, though, it's true. Blair was America's faithful lapdog (or rather, lap-cheshire-cat) for ten years, and Brown is slightly better, but when America wants to invade a country, who's always first in line to help?

That's part of the reason I am a fan of Europe and the EU. And why many Brits would defend Europe in an argument.



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