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The Move's sub-controller is motion-less. It does zero motion-sensing. With that said, there is absolutely no way this tech is better than the Wii. It has some advantages, it has some disadvantages. In the end, it's way more expensive for the casual gamer to get into the Playstation Move than to get into a Wii, and they will NOT be going for it en masse.



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everyone that doesnt like it are wii owners untill now?
it has potential then.



mike_intellivision said:
This is where the announcement article fails:

"However, ignoring pricing, ..."

Pricing has a lot to do with it. The Wii has this straight out of the box. The PS3 is looking at somewhere between $50 to $100 for a peripheral with limited strong software support at present.

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I think this is a very important point that people will miss. As Guitar Hero and Wii Fit have demonstrated $100 for a controller and game isn’t too much to ask of people who own your console if the game is significant enough; I resist saying "Good Enough" primarily because it is not necessarily the quality based on conventional standards that drives sales. When you start dealing with people who don’t own the system the launch price of the Wii was a lot to ask for most people to buy a system, controller, and game; and (not meaning to be rude) the PS3 will be about as outdated as the Wii was at launch by the time this hardware is released.

On top of this, one of the things I noticed about the games that have been displayed is that these games seemed very similar to the games we have seen on the Wii with one major difference; almost all of the games seemed to be focusing on being more “Hardcore” in presentation. While I’m certain that this was meant to make the games more appealing to older gamers it might actually have the complete opposite effect. One of the things I have seen in my life and heard talked about by experts is that simple (often colourful) graphics are often seen as far more approachable to the novice gamer. While I’m certain that their Wii Sports knock-off (can’t remember its name ATM) may appeal to the core audience more than Wii Sports did, I can’t help but think that it might alienate the expanded audience Sony wants to attract.

The last thing I want to mention is what I have seen on the Wii that developers producing games for this device should be careful about. There have been quite a few games that were superior to highly popular Wii games that “Flopped” when they were released 18 to 24 months after the initial game in a large part because gamers on the Wii were looking for new experiences; and not necessarily tighter controls or better graphics from the same games. Many of the games demonstrated so far seem to be clones of 18 to 36 month old Wii games, and if Wii owners aren’t willing to drop $50 on a better version of a game they’re tired of I doubt they would spend $400.

 



Shonen said:
Yeah it started at last week and i think that how it gonna be from now on All wiis will come with Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus for 199,99.

Last week, really? I'm guessing Nintendo Europe had a head start then, since the bundle's been available here for several weeks at least. Maybe months.



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Cobra_ said:
Shonen said:
Yeah it started at last week and i think that how it gonna be from now on All wiis will come with Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus for 199,99.

Last week, really? I'm guessing Nintendo Europe had a head start then, since the bundle's been available here for several weeks at least. Maybe months.

Yeah i was talking about Nintendo of america...



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I am super glad this tech will push competition with Ninty's tech farther.

A big hurdle that this article barely touches on is entry pricepoint. The Wii was moslty successful due to its low-cost inclusive bundle (console + controller + game). Do we know how much money I have to spend to enjoy the Move experience?

Cost drives everything.



I wonder if the Playstation Move is what Pacher meant by the Wii HD.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

meatloaf73 said:
"Sony even said it on stage: the PlayStation Move is meant to attract the Wii user ready to move into the world of HD. "

It will be very interesting to see if they migrate...... Time will tell. I really think that it's not the Motion controler, ........... it's the Family oriented games that the Wii offers. If Sony can attract more Family and teen games, then they will follow.

It raises the old presumption that Wii owners have always *wanted* to upgrade to PS3/360, but it was either price or lack of motion controls that were holding them back. It doesn't estimate that their values may be otherwise.



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Games for the Playstation Move have to be either significant improvements over Wii games in terms of control, or they'll have to offer genres not possible on Wii to really lift the userbase.

Personally, I think Natal / Move have enough potential that they'll get 20m-30m users, but Nintendo will just block their user base growth with a Zii or Wii 2 in 2012. The Wii can just ride out the pricing and user base advantages it has over the next one to three years.

Sony really had to do this - earlier in the 2000s, Playstation Softare for Sony consoles (PS1 + PS2) totalled nearly 270m units per year. In 2009, it was down to 147m for PS3 + PS2.

 



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This seems to confirm what others have said: The Move does a great job recognizing gestures because of the PSEye's ever-present calibration, but it doesn't hold up as well as the IR camera when used as a pointer.



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