Wow well said. That should be published  

 Speak for yourself...there are over 5 million people who disagree with every last word in your post.

Speaks for 'your'self WEW, just because someone bought the game doesn't mean they hold it in as high a regard as those we are talking about do.

I've been looking for dirt on Mass Effect...
My expectations are so high that I know theres no way it could possibly meet them...

So I'm trying to lower them as much as possible!

9.6 from GT.

off topic: The ps3 gets a screw attack while the wii gets a happy birthday montage? WTF?

I have never played either one, but I will tell you this ... I have no opinion on the matter.

Well lets be clear there is a difference between folks who don't recognize that something is a good game and folks who see why people think it is a good game and don't like it despite that. 

For example, first time I noticed Mass Effect was a trailer, after watching the trailer and without knowing who was making it I thought "this looks like a graphically spiffed up, yet shitty version of kotor".  Since then I have watched countless videos and I can see where people are exited about the branching dialogue the storyline, and in some respects the gameplay.  But for me the branching dialogue is only important if the story is intriguing, and the story sounds like something taken from the pages of a "Make'A'Sci-Fi'Show" Handbook and the combat looks ..well to be blunt godawful. To be honest I can handle the story because I enjoy sci-fi and I am able to look past its cheesier faults, but the combat I have seen is very offputting for me. For a long period of time I actually refrained from commenting on the game because my opinion was just fundamentally different from everyone else who was talking about it.  But just because I have that opinion of the game doesn't make me a hater or a fanboy. 

The same is probably true of the Halo series, I played through the beginning of the campaign on a friends xbox and though it was a subpar shooter at best (most likely because I was into PC shooters).  I eventually spent quite a bit of time playing the game with friends but never was compelled to buy the game or console.  I still think of halo as a mediocre shooter and if anything I get hate from other people (just watch I will get some for this post) for having that opinion.  But I do think it was an important step to bringing console shooters up to a new level and closing the gap between PC shooters. The series has its strengths, I have no problem recognizing that, but the overall package has never really reached out and grabbed me and if anything has pushed me away.  

Uncharted is similar right now, it does have an interesting story but people are very hyped on its graphics, yet all of the shots I have seen look like refried crap (if anyone has good shots please PM/post them) and I don't know what to think of the game with reviewers saying that it is relatively short and has good graphics. Are they right on both? wrong on one, right on the other?  wrong on both? I will likely still try the game some time down the road, especially if I get a PS3, but but the disparity between what is being said and what I am seeing gives me doubts.  I hope it turns out to be a good game because as I said I am interested in the story, but if it looks like crap or is short, then I am going to hold that against it...and thats not being a fanboy or a hater...thats just being honest.

So as long as we are making broad sweeping generalizations, how about I make one of my own: 

People who complain about Halo/Uncharted/Mass Effect haters are just blinded by their own fanboy love and can't bring their heads out of the clouds to recognize the faults in the game.  They react to people who do see these faults with disbelief and attempts to generalize them as just being haters hating.   

Now that we are done with that, how about we realise that ALL people, not just fanboys or haters are guilty of these generalizations at some point and playing this game where people think they are Sigmund Freud and can analyze the psyche of other posters based on a few posts are full of it. 

Way to only respond to half of my post. I will sit here and say that many of nintendo's games have weak stories. Why don't you then play Nintendo's more story driven games? Metroid, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Nintendo has them. They're not exactly Bioware quality stories, but if your profile actually had a list of the games you own then I'm sure I could find many games on there with stories of worse quality.

I do understand that Nintendo does have a weak point when it comes to stories, but simply discounting all of their games based on this is incredibly closed-minded. I understand that EA has a habit of releasing buggy and half-finished games but I will say the same thing about them. Anyone who says "they don't like EA games" is just being closed minded.

And saying that there are no decent movies based off Nintendo games is just patently unfair. There has never been a decent movie made from any game ever. Those games with fantastic sotrylines (Baldur's Gate, Half-Life, Homeworld, etc) have never been made into a movie. What do we see instead? Doom. Obviously in your opinion, having fiml rights to a game must mean the story is supreme quality. Give me a break. 

I'm sorry, but I seem to be sensing a case of video game snobbery over here. You enjoy your Mass Effect, your Halo 3, your Blue Dragon. You're more than welcome to. I don't think you need to say that I am "too stupid to buy an Xbox360". In fact, I prefer to think I'm too smart to buy an Xbox360, Because I'm not interested in spending $560 for it when I'm only interested in two games for it, (one of which is getting released for PC).

There seems to be this strange idea that people (such as myself) dislike these games because they are on the 360. That I really want to play this game but for some unknown reason, I have too much Nintendo fandom that I cannot go out and purchase an Xbox 360 to play them, so I must convince myself I don't want them. Nothing is further from the truth. I am simply not interested in Blue Dragon. I am not interested in Gears of War. I am not interested in Halo 3. And it is because of this disinterest that I do not own an Xbox 360. It's as simple as that.

So enjoy your games, and I'll enjoy mine. Don't think I'd be happy with the "king of quality gaming". Don't think I'm disappointed by the Wii's software drought, because from my viewpoint, the PS3 and 360 have had much worse software droughts. And don't call me stupid for not agreeing with you.

 Feel free to PM me any questions you may have, just finished my 3rd playthrough.