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Fuck you Ubisoft you greedy assholes



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CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.



Tanstalas said:
Twistedpixel said:
Im not getting this game until its cheap so I don't think its that important to me. I'll pay 1/3rd original price and no more. I don't think I'll replay this title.

The day you buy it, they will turn off their servers ;)

 

LOL

By then there will be a crack, so why would I worry?



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jonnhytesta said:
CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.

True, but Ubisoft is only killing it faster with this DRM crap. While the pirates won't be affected, they're stabbing the loyal paying customers right in the back with this move, and are only worsening the situation.



Tanstalas said:
Twistedpixel said:
Im not getting this game until its cheap so I don't think its that important to me. I'll pay 1/3rd original price and no more. I don't think I'll replay this title.

The day you buy it, they will turn off their servers ;)

 

LOL

I think they say that if they ever turn off the servers for a game, they will unlock the game first. :P



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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jonnhytesta said:
CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.

piracy is far from ever killing the PC game industry. did it kill the music industry? no.



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CatFangs806 said:
jonnhytesta said:
CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.

True, but Ubisoft is only killing it faster with this DRM crap. While the pirates won't be affected, they're stabbing the loyal paying customers right in the back with this move, and are only worsening the situation.

Isn't this system where you actually save your game online, and can only load the saved game from online?

Anyway, truth is, developers have and always will have ways to kill piracy, however, those ways are so encumbering upon the actual customer, that they aren't allowed or accepted. If it wasn't such a hinderance, Ubi could send a ninja home with every purchase of a game, to gaurd it from piracy, but the paying customer wouldn't allow that, and it wouldn't be possible for a number of reasons. However, it could work.

Games are simply content. Everchanging X factors like when a boss spawns or what triggers certain events can be streamed to a game via an open connection. If UBI wanted to stream EVERY enemy in every game, it would be increadibly hard to actually pirate around that and recode it without creating a new games yourself. Kinda like World of Warcraft. The game is just the content, its free. No restrictions. However, if you want to play the game online, as it was meant to be played, you need to have an account.

The piracy problem is something that can be overcome with technology, eventually(see PS3 as a primative example of how things are getting progressively harder to crack). You might not be able to get your head around how DRM could eventually stand up to hackers if designed to do so, but remember this. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ssj12 said:
jonnhytesta said:
CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.

piracy is far from ever killing the PC game industry. did it kill the music industry? no.

3 points.

1. The music industry does not have a significant rise in production costs, like the Videogame industry due to changing technology that isn't produced by simple inflation. In other words, singing into a can is the same thing now as it was 100 years ago. Videogame creation has recently had skyrocketing production costs and vast increases in time taken to create the actual game. Also, it takes relatively little technical training to create music and write songs, so you have a much wider, more competitive, and more eager selection of CHEAP workers than you do in the PC gaming industry. Fact is, it's cheap as hell to make a record, and if it sells half of what it would have due to piracy, it still turns a huge profit. The music industry is a mainstream money pit, and it will never "die."

2. The PC game industy has competition from the console game industry, and the handheld game industry, or more specifically, the PS3, 360, DS, PSP, PS2, and the Wii. The music industry is the music industry. There is no Music Industry 2 for people to flock to when Metallica pisses them off.

3. The music industry has vast encompassing corporations all mutually invested in its success. The PC gaming industry has more vast encompassing corporations, and in fact, and entire console industry, invested in its failure.

I don't think it's a good comparison.

 

That said, the PC gaming industry isn't dying....at the very least, mindsweeper and Peggle can keep it alive for generations.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

I buy all multiplat games (that include a PC release) on my PC. I will no longer be purchasing Ubisoft games for my PC.

It is to bad too. All 360/PC only Ubisoft games have lost one sale if this remains.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
CatFangs806 said:
jonnhytesta said:
CatFangs806 said:
This is why PC gaming is dying.

nope, piracy is why pc gaming is dying, this is just ubi last reasort to try to save it. i wont work of course , ubi staff have familes and a real life. hackers and nerds have all the time in the world.

True, but Ubisoft is only killing it faster with this DRM crap. While the pirates won't be affected, they're stabbing the loyal paying customers right in the back with this move, and are only worsening the situation.

Isn't this system where you actually save your game online, and can only load the saved game from online?

Anyway, truth is, developers have and always will have ways to kill piracy, however, those ways are so encumbering upon the actual customer, that they aren't allowed or accepted. If it wasn't such a hinderance, Ubi could send a ninja home with every purchase of a game, to gaurd it from piracy, but the paying customer wouldn't allow that, and it wouldn't be possible for a number of reasons. However, it could work.

Games are simply content. Everchanging X factors like when a boss spawns or what triggers certain events can be streamed to a game via an open connection. If UBI wanted to stream EVERY enemy in every game, it would be increadibly hard to actually pirate around that and recode it without creating a new games yourself. Kinda like World of Warcraft. The game is just the content, its free. No restrictions. However, if you want to play the game online, as it was meant to be played, you need to have an account.

The piracy problem is something that can be overcome with technology, eventually(see PS3 as a primative example of how things are getting progressively harder to crack). You might not be able to get your head around how DRM could eventually stand up to hackers if designed to do so, but remember this. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

trouble is the hackers will have better tech and will be able to crack the better DRM tech. Even games like World of warcraft is pirated with private servers etc. Not to mention the PS3 has reportadly been hacked and it's probably just a matter of time until you can play pirated PS3 games. the only way to stop crackers is to make the system so locked down that it is only usable by someone on the inside (like the banking system) And even then it must be constantly be upgraded to prevent people exploiting the system.



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