That's funny, but really that shadow complex thing is strange. I know Castlevania has been doing that for years too, but it seems strange. I'll know if you can aim you gun vertically down the hall like in shadow complex.

First to popularize.... ugh whatever.
Avatar invented movies because it has the highest sales of any movie.

Nintendo didn't start everything. The dualshock and dual analog are miniature versions of the analog joystick which was announced in 95. Not only that, but dual analog control is credited which revolutionizing gaming. So, don't try to take that away from Sony. Nintendo is credited for so many revolutionary ideas, you'd think the fans would be satisfied with boasting over those things.

EDIT: actually, just take it. I don't care anymore.

It's all the same, cause I didn't credit Nintendo with inventing the idea, only coming out with it and then Sony released their anlog controller, but if you want to bitch about semantics Atari had the first analog controller before it was even useful for anything... so the battle was lost before it was even started

no no, you're right.

First sony copied the SNES controller, and then after the n64 came out with one analog, Sony came out with two analogs.

The formal announcement and reveal of N64's controller came in late 1995 at Nintendo's Shoshinkai exhibition and well predate public unveilings of both the PS Dual Analog pad (which predated the DualShock) and Saturn 3D NiGHTS pad. The analog stick's design was supposedly finalized in mid 1994, when Super Mario 64 started formal R&D.

It's generally seen that both Sega and Sony's new controllers were a direct response to the N64 controller, which wowed the press who played Mario 64 in 1995.

As for actual releases...

Nintendo 64 Pad: June 23 1996
NiGHTS 3D Pad: July 5 1996
Dual Analog Pad: April 25 1997

Is it just me or does the Other M screenshot look better than Shadow Complex?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Analog_Joystick

The dual analog controller was a hardware revision of this model.

This was unveiled in April '95, before the Shoshinkai exhibition.

This is the honest to goodness dual analog controller, except here, the analogs are primary with everything else secondary. Even the ability to push the buttons in later on harkens back to the flickswitch on top of the analog.

lol.  That article refers to the PS Joystick  You realize that about every system since Atari 2600 had an analog joystick too, right? ;)

Again, the first analog thumbstick, both shown and released, was on N64.  Then came Saturn (3D NiGHTS pad), then came PlayStation (Dual Analog Pad).

I'm not trying to say that Sony was the first. I'm saying that the joystick is where the dual analog comes from.

Sorry, there's pretty much no inkling of that in the citation.  In fact the wiki article talks about the PS Joystick's lengthy 10 year production run, doesn't really sound like a predecessor to the Dual Analogs (which blatantly cribbed the thumbstick concept wholesale from N64).

Of course if we're going by analog joysticks, then Nintendo's first would be the NES Advantage in 1987.