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Kenryoku_Maxis on 26 February 2010
patjuan32 said:
I like some of the things he said but the whole Casual or Core propaganda is getting out of hand. Last gen gamers were gamers there was no " Casuals versus the Core" mentality. Gaming Journalist, Developers, and Publishers seem to think that if you are a core gamer that you do not enjoy core games or vice versa. This is not true for a majority of the gaming public.

Actually, all that 'casual vs core' junk started last gen.  It just exploded this gen because of the Wii and DS and Nintendos approach being 'different' than the 'HD systems'.

And the 'casual vs core' junk is just an extension of the 'hardcore vs non-hardcore' junk started back in the SNES vs genesis days.



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patjuan32 on 26 February 2010
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
patjuan32 said:
I like some of the things he said but the whole Casual or Core propaganda is getting out of hand. Last gen gamers were gamers there was no " Casuals versus the Core" mentality. Gaming Journalist, Developers, and Publishers seem to think that if you are a core gamer that you do not enjoy core games or vice versa. This is not true for a majority of the gaming public.

Actually, all that 'casual vs core' junk started last gen.  It just exploded this gen because of the Wii and DS and Nintendos approach being 'different' than the 'HD systems'.

And the 'casual vs core' junk is just an extension of the 'hardcore vs non-hardcore' junk started back in the SNES vs genesis days.

If you say so. I actually do not remember last gen being that way. Especially, not in the Press. IGN, Gamespot, and other sites that I visited never really engaged in the "Casual Vs Core " banter, now they do. The PS2 had a mixture of Casual and Core games or what people take as such and it also had a broad demographic that made up it's fanbase. Yet as I stated before, the Gaming sites that I visited never had articles about the PS2 being a Casual Platform.



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famousringo on 26 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
famousringo said:
Yep, this guys sounds like he knows his business.

I'm a little puzzled about the decision to focus the Marvel IPs on the HD consoles, though. Since when are superheroes not for kids?

About the mid 90's.  Have you seen comics lately?

They rip corpses in half, peoples are decapitated, having limbs cut off, on screen though covered sex scenes, death, suicide, stories about rape.

 

The mainstream Marvel universe is NOT a safe place for kids.

Lame. There used to be special brands for mature comics, like Vertigo. Sounds like all that's left for young'uns is soulless, rehashed Archie comics. Must be hard to get into comics when there's nothing to bridge the gap between Casper and Sandman.



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Xxain on 26 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
famousringo said:
Yep, this guys sounds like he knows his business.

I'm a little puzzled about the decision to focus the Marvel IPs on the HD consoles, though. Since when are superheroes not for kids?

About the mid 90's.  Have you seen comics lately?

They rip corpses in half, peoples are decapitated, having limbs cut off, on screen though covered sex scenes, death, suicide, stories about rape.

 

The mainstream Marvel universe is NOT a safe place for kids.


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Kasz216 on 26 February 2010
famousringo said:
Kasz216 said:
famousringo said:
Yep, this guys sounds like he knows his business.

I'm a little puzzled about the decision to focus the Marvel IPs on the HD consoles, though. Since when are superheroes not for kids?

About the mid 90's.  Have you seen comics lately?

They rip corpses in half, peoples are decapitated, having limbs cut off, on screen though covered sex scenes, death, suicide, stories about rape.

 

The mainstream Marvel universe is NOT a safe place for kids.

Lame. There used to be special brands for mature comics, like Vertigo. Sounds like all that's left for young'uns is soulless, rehashed Archie comics. Must be hard to get into comics when there's nothing to bridge the gap between Casper and Sandman.

Well they do make "kids" versions of comics... though i hear they're mostly very lame outside of the ones based on the Justice League cartoon.

 

Your still fairly safe if you stick tamer people like spiderman too... well until he gets pulled into a GIANT MEGA CROSSOVER which seems to happen once every 6 months or so... or someone just decides to be a jerk.

It is pretty lame though.



mike_intellivision on 26 February 2010

Withholding Mickey is a good thing.

That means a few good things rather than many bad games.

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jammy2211 on 26 February 2010

While it is a stategy not many developers have tried on the Wii, aiming for quality and presumed high budget marketing, I think it's alot easier for Disney to justify this what with having Mickey Mouse on the front cover. I don't think there is a single third-party property which couldn't resonate better with this supposed Wii/DS casual tpye expanded market.

The rest of the reading is interesting, I really hope they filter out the trash Marvel games and take a leaf from the Batman:AA book that DC / Warner showed us.



Demotruk on 26 February 2010
Mr Khan said:

This and Disney's Guilty Party make it seem like they really get it. Guilty Party has the potential to be the next Just Dance-style breakout hit, and that game plus Epic Mickey are on the extremely short list of 3rd party games that i think could actually sell Wiis, because they do something different than what Nintendo already provides, but along the same thought processes as Nintendo

 

Monster Hunter Tri could possibly be on that list too, depending on how Nintendo markets it.

How do you figure?

The great mystery board games and social games (eg. werewolves) require players to access info secretly. With the Wii, all info is available publicly because it's on the TV screen. Which leads me to believe the game is limited to co-operatively or competitively figuring out the mysteries together. So essentially it's a dynamic adventure game, with multi-player but without the sort of play mechanics that make for a truly great group mystery game. I can see that working out well, but I can't see it being a break out hit like Just Dance.

What am I missing on this one?



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huaxiong90 on 26 February 2010

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