Abortion: What's your view on it?

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NKAJ on 04 March 2010

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Pyramid Head said:
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that would work if more women reported rapes, but many are too scared/ashamed to

but fuck them right

then they are retarded and should have to live with their mistake.

lol and you think pyramid head should be reported??!

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pearljammer on 04 March 2010

letsdance said:

Pyramid Head said:
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that would work if more women reported rapes, but many are too scared/ashamed to

but fuck them right

then they are retarded and should have to live with their mistake.

As someone who knows somebody who was raped and lives in fear of most men and had felt scared to actually come out with it, this is among the most disturbing things I've ever read on here.

Many of them do live with it. However, I cannot fathom how one could ever consider it to be their mistake. Unless you've been a victim, you couldn't begin to understand their perspective. I sure as hell can't.

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bimmylee on 05 March 2010

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bimmylee said:

You guys... unless the pregnancy is threatening the life of the mother, put the kid up for ADOPTION.

There are plenty of couples who are unable to have kids and would love nothing more than to raise one. Adopted kids are statistically more likely to succeed than their biological counterparts, because their parents planned for them and absolutely wanted to have them. It's a no-brainer. Just have the kid, and put it up for ADOPTION.

If the mother might die from having the kid, then YES, of course the mother should make that call. But you can't go around having sex and not expect there to be some serious consequences if you do. Cases of rape? Absolutely terrible situations. But have the kid, put it up for adoption, and get it away from yourself so it can live its life and you can live yours. Cases of incest? Likewise. Do I seem like I'm being ridiculous? Probably to many. But I don't care. You have to draw the line somewhere when you're protecting those who are unable to speak for themselves.

Let's not be selfish here. Give the kid a chance with another set of parents. If you keep in touch, your child will probably thank you someday for giving them a chance at the life you couldn't offer. That's the gift of all gifts: a chance at a good life.

ah, but there are also plenty of children who are up for adoption, no?

and what happens when 18 years down the line the now-young-adult wants to know the truth behind their birth, and goes looking to the birth mother for answers? "oh hey honey, sorry about that.. your "daddy" was a sex offender and i was his victim. ho hum. come gimme a hug".

OT: Rape, incest, deformed/seriously handicapped child, danger to the mother - i think these are "acceptable" situations.

but any other situation, although i may feel strongly about it, is not my decision to make.

i do not want to live in a society where a woman is not in control of what goes on in/comes out of her body. whether its her own fault or not for getting pregnant (and remember that contraception is not 100% reliable) and whether or not there are alternatives, if one person does not feel that she can cope with that sort of thing, then it should be her choice, whether or not i agree with it. make sense?

@blue text: If someone wouldn't feel good about possibly having to put a kid up for adoption, then either they had better use protection or just not have sex at all. There is a great responsibility that comes with sexual activity; if you're going to have sex, you must be willing to shoulder it.

@pink text: Are you suggesting that this information about the person's mother would cause the person to wish they had never been born? Quite unlikely. Would it be traumatic? Absolutely. But I doubt the person would say, "gee, knowing now how my mother got pregnant with me, I sure wish she had aborted me."

We will have to agree to disagree. When a person consciously decides to have sex, that person is making a blatant choice and must deal with the ramifications. That is when the person has the control... not after the fact. As for the "acceptable situations," who are we to decide which unborn babies deserve a life and which ones don't? It's certainly a slippery slope. "Danger to the mother" is the only situation that I think is undeniably legitimate, as you are literally having to choose one life over another.

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