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Akvod on 26 February 2010
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
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Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

 

Wut? So you're against DLC? Why don't we take that logic to expansion packs? Or maybe to entire games?

I'm not denying that reaction C will happen, I mean, that's why free stuff is great. But EA didn't just choose scenario B for no reason, it was a calculated incentive to get people to buy new copies. It benefits both the consumers who did find the value worth it, EA, and it does no harm to those who don't want to shell out either $15 for the DLC or $60 for a brand new game+free DLC.



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c0rd on 26 February 2010
Akvod said:
c0rd said:

Well, that sounds more like the PC route, which I don't mind. Most of the PC games I get constantly come out with new patches, content, mods, etc. long after release, so I'd always buy with the assumption of holding onto it forever (who sells PC games anyway?). Then again, they also tend to be online / local multiplayer games...

Still, I don't think the upfront DLC code deal is necessary for this, as it feels like they're unfairly devaluing your copy of the game. Wouldn't the promised content in the future be enough for people to hold out? It just seems like they're trying to screw us over with all this DLC nowadays.

PC has no DLC, only updates.

 

Read the article.

What's the difference? Some PC updates have (or used to have) some pretty nice content in them. The DLC looks like it's just a couple of maps, we used to get far more than that for free.

Btw, in your scenario A, I wouldn't be silent... I'd be bitching they charge so damn much just for a few maps



Raistline on 26 February 2010

The idea everyone here seems to be missing is that they $15 is not just for a couple damned maps. It is also for future DLC content and use of the game as though it were a new purchase, be it updates, skins or what have you.
I personally object to even paying 5 bucks for new maps or a stupid new or or avatar. That is why I don't buy them for games on my console. It is also why I chose to stay with PC for these types of games that would need new maps. IE, FPS. As for buying new cars for racing games. Screw that, I will just use what is already available.



Akvod on 26 February 2010
c0rd said:
Akvod said:
c0rd said:

Well, that sounds more like the PC route, which I don't mind. Most of the PC games I get constantly come out with new patches, content, mods, etc. long after release, so I'd always buy with the assumption of holding onto it forever (who sells PC games anyway?). Then again, they also tend to be online / local multiplayer games...

Still, I don't think the upfront DLC code deal is necessary for this, as it feels like they're unfairly devaluing your copy of the game. Wouldn't the promised content in the future be enough for people to hold out? It just seems like they're trying to screw us over with all this DLC nowadays.

PC has no DLC, only updates.

 

Read the article.

What's the difference? Some PC updates have (or used to have) some pretty nice content in them. The DLC looks like it's just a couple of maps, we used to get far more than that for free.

Btw, in your scenario A, I wouldn't be silent... I'd be bitching they charge so damn much just for a few maps

The difference is that consoles have to pay for new content, you guys simply get them as free updates. If you're saying that the updates are small, that's your opinion and you are justified in voicing it, but there's no room to complain about actually getting the stuff for free. To complain that you got something for free (and you're perfectly capable of disposing of it with minimal or no effort) is irrational.



Garnett on 26 February 2010
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

The reason why I'm skeptical is because they already did this with Madden 10. They had a code in the box so new buyers could play online franchise mode. Now note that this mode is one of the defining features of the game and was present inside Madden 09 for everyone. This was an expected feature on the disc and it was withheld to be used for this security measure to fight used game sales. If they're willing to do it with Madden, then they're willing to do it with Bad Company 2. I'm not saying it's definitive, but based on knowledge of EA's past actions, it's the likelier of two scenarios.

 

Looks like its not in the game.



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Akvod on 26 February 2010
Garnett said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

The reason why I'm skeptical is because they already did this with Madden 10. They had a code in the box so new buyers could play online franchise mode. Now note that this mode is one of the defining features of the game and was present inside Madden 09 for everyone. This was an expected feature on the disc and it was withheld to be used for this security measure to fight used game sales. If they're willing to do it with Madden, then they're willing to do it with Bad Company 2. I'm not saying it's definitive, but based on knowledge of EA's past actions, it's the likelier of two scenarios.

 

Looks like its not in the game.

*Generic Face Palm Picture*

 

That's the inherent definition of a DOWNLOADABLE content. If it was in the game, it wouldn't be a DLC.



Garnett on 26 February 2010
Akvod said:
Garnett said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

The reason why I'm skeptical is because they already did this with Madden 10. They had a code in the box so new buyers could play online franchise mode. Now note that this mode is one of the defining features of the game and was present inside Madden 09 for everyone. This was an expected feature on the disc and it was withheld to be used for this security measure to fight used game sales. If they're willing to do it with Madden, then they're willing to do it with Bad Company 2. I'm not saying it's definitive, but based on knowledge of EA's past actions, it's the likelier of two scenarios.

 

Looks like its not in the game.

*Generic Face Palm Picture*

 

That's the inherent definition of a DOWNLOADABLE content. If it was in the game, it wouldn't be a DLC.

"Looks like its not in the game"

 


even though its on the disc... 

 

 

 



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JaggedSac on 26 February 2010

Goodness



Akvod on 26 February 2010
Garnett said:
Akvod said:
Garnett said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

The reason why I'm skeptical is because they already did this with Madden 10. They had a code in the box so new buyers could play online franchise mode. Now note that this mode is one of the defining features of the game and was present inside Madden 09 for everyone. This was an expected feature on the disc and it was withheld to be used for this security measure to fight used game sales. If they're willing to do it with Madden, then they're willing to do it with Bad Company 2. I'm not saying it's definitive, but based on knowledge of EA's past actions, it's the likelier of two scenarios.

 

Looks like its not in the game.

*Generic Face Palm Picture*

 

That's the inherent definition of a DOWNLOADABLE content. If it was in the game, it wouldn't be a DLC.

"Looks like its not in the game"

 


even though its on the disc... 

 

 

 

Why are you repeating yourself? Of course it's not in the game, because it's NOT in the disc. If it was on the disc, there would be nothing to DOWNLOAD >.<



Garnett on 26 February 2010
Akvod said:
Garnett said:
Akvod said:
Garnett said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

The reason why I'm skeptical is because they already did this with Madden 10. They had a code in the box so new buyers could play online franchise mode. Now note that this mode is one of the defining features of the game and was present inside Madden 09 for everyone. This was an expected feature on the disc and it was withheld to be used for this security measure to fight used game sales. If they're willing to do it with Madden, then they're willing to do it with Bad Company 2. I'm not saying it's definitive, but based on knowledge of EA's past actions, it's the likelier of two scenarios.

 

Looks like its not in the game.

*Generic Face Palm Picture*

 

That's the inherent definition of a DOWNLOADABLE content. If it was in the game, it wouldn't be a DLC.

"Looks like its not in the game"

 


even though its on the disc... 

 

 

 

Why are you repeating yourself? Of course it's not in the game, because it's NOT in the disc. If it was on the disc, there would be nothing to DOWNLOAD >.<

Its on the disc but its not in the game, somethings wrong with that. 

And are you willing to make a bet with me?



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