Or gem or whatever it's called

BtW im still undecided

I'm sure Sony will convince me of some reason to buy it.. though they haven't given me one yet

Well Darth is convincing me into not getting a Wii, and waiting for the ARC, and get all those games I would turn away for a wii

you mean the ARC, and no i dont and i wont be playing natal either, i hate the motion controller thing and really hope that this isnt the way that gaming is going. As ive said before when i play games i like to do it to relax sitting down in my chair after a days graft at work and if the games got it; getting engrossed in a good storyline too. i dont want to be jumping ducking and punching midair, so i really hope gaming doesnt lose the Joypad for Motion controlling, its a bad thing IMO.

yes, I already have the eye, so I just need the controller and that probably won't be too expensive

Yes I do, but only because I expect to see some good software for it and because I already have the Eye. If Sony don't show me some good games though, I won't get it.

I have a Wii as well...... so no.

Nope. Fuck Motion Controls. Especially ones that are just cheap-knock offs. That goes for both Natal and The Arc. I also hate the wii-mote

Evolution of the sony motion controll device: wand --> dildo --> gem --> arc --> arch

I got eyetoy for PS2, it was fun. I have kids who like the casual mini-games. I got Eyepet for my kids, it was too good to pass up buying the game plus PSEye for $25 less than a standard new release game, and my kids like playing Eyepet. My kids have liked the Wii motion controls when they've played it, but they like PS3 more overall so have never asked for a Wii. It's almost an inevitability that I will be getting the Arc(h) whether I like it or not. Hopefully I like it because it will make it even more worth it.

I'll buy it if it's priced right and comes out with good software to back it up.