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NiKKoM said:

Who is this Sonic guy you are talking about?

LOL I am dead inside  Poor crash =/



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@LordtheNK: You kind of embarassed yourself in your last post by not making any sense, and further not even really responding to me. I didn't say it's not possible (search for 'Somari' rom, some home-made NES mashup of Sonic/Mario): I said there's no point. Simply featuring two specific characters does not lend a game anymore potential fun or quality.



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Of course ill buy a game in wich we can play with Mario or Sonic in 2D.

Like the old days...



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I don't think Nintendo and Sega are planning to do any 'epic Sonic crossover'. Just like I've given up hope that SquareEnix has plans for an epic Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy cross over RPG. However, the concept for Dimps (the developer of Sonic Rush and 'Sonic 4') and Nintendo teaming up to make an epic 2D Sonic/Mario cross over is sound. Not only is Dimps a good development group, proving themselves time and time again at being capable of making amazing games (Dragon Ball Budokai, Dragon Ball Advance, Street Fighter IV, most of the better Sonic games in the last 10 years), but they also are just a solid development group who shows they can work for a wide variety of developers (Sega, Capcom, Konami, Bandai, etc).

In other words, what I'm saying is, if Dimps and Nintendo teamed up to make a Sonic/Mario cross-over, I'd play it in a heartbeat.



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thekitchensink said:
Yep.  There's about as much chance of that as there is of putting them in a game and letting them fight each other...

I'm not losing sleep waiting for this to be announced, but the likelihood sounds as silly as what this guy said... then it happened.



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"I didn't say it's not possible (search for 'Somari' rom, some home-made NES mashup of Sonic/Mario): I said there's no point. Simply featuring two specific characters does not lend a game anymore potential fun or quality."

That's still a fallacy. For one thing, you are still assuming a total lack if not of possibility than of point. For another, you are assuming I mean nothing more than putting them in the same game.

What the hell made you think I meant just that?



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"I didn't say it's not possible (search for 'Somari' rom, some home-made NES mashup of Sonic/Mario): I said there's no point. Simply featuring two specific characters does not lend a game anymore potential fun or quality."

That's still a fallacy. For one thing, you are still assuming a total lack if not of possibility than of point. For another, you are assuming I mean nothing more than putting them in the same game.

What the hell made you think I meant just that?

No, that is not a fallacy. Where the hell did you take your logic classes? 

No realistic person wants this game. What could a Sonic/Mario platformer possibly offer the world that a brand new platformer could not?

There is no reason to even imagine or desire such a thing besides growing up in the 90's, and claiming that making a cash-in mash-up would be in line with Nintendo's be-imaginative-and-innovative philosophy is one of the most self-contradicting things I've ever heard.

 



Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.

"No realistic person wants this game."

That is a fallacy. First of all you are assuming a lack of interest without verifying that is the case. Then you are backing that up with the brush of claiming anyone who does is unrealistic.

This is opinion myopia, not a discussion. If you aren't going to discuss, get out.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

blaydcor said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"I didn't say it's not possible (search for 'Somari' rom, some home-made NES mashup of Sonic/Mario): I said there's no point. Simply featuring two specific characters does not lend a game anymore potential fun or quality."

That's still a fallacy. For one thing, you are still assuming a total lack if not of possibility than of point. For another, you are assuming I mean nothing more than putting them in the same game.

What the hell made you think I meant just that?

No, that is not a fallacy. Where the hell did you take your logic classes? 

No realistic person wants this game. What could a Sonic/Mario platformer possibly offer the world that a brand new platformer could not?

There is no reason to even imagine or desire such a thing besides growing up in the 90's, and claiming that making a cash-in mash-up would be in line with Nintendo's be-imaginative-and-innovative philosophy is one of the most self-contradicting things I've ever heard.

 

I already said I'd want it, as long as both Dimps and Nintendo worked together to produce it.

And so what if part of the reason for wanting it was '90s nostalgia'?  If that's what's selling Sonic and Mario games today, that's an awful lot of nostalgia selling that software.

...or maybe some people are actually playing the games....you know....for the gameplay?  Nah, Super Mario Galaxy and the Dimps developed Sonic games didn't bring anything new to the plate....



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
blaydcor said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"I didn't say it's not possible (search for 'Somari' rom, some home-made NES mashup of Sonic/Mario): I said there's no point. Simply featuring two specific characters does not lend a game anymore potential fun or quality."

That's still a fallacy. For one thing, you are still assuming a total lack if not of possibility than of point. For another, you are assuming I mean nothing more than putting them in the same game.

What the hell made you think I meant just that?

No, that is not a fallacy. Where the hell did you take your logic classes? 

No realistic person wants this game. What could a Sonic/Mario platformer possibly offer the world that a brand new platformer could not?

There is no reason to even imagine or desire such a thing besides growing up in the 90's, and claiming that making a cash-in mash-up would be in line with Nintendo's be-imaginative-and-innovative philosophy is one of the most self-contradicting things I've ever heard.

 

I already said I'd want it, as long as both Dimps and Nintendo worked together to produce it.

And so what if part of the reason for wanting it was '90s nostalgia'?  If that's what's selling Sonic and Mario games today, that's an awful lot of nostalgia selling that software.

...or maybe some people are actually playing the games....you know....for the gameplay?  Nah, Super Mario Galaxy and the Dimps developed Sonic games didn't bring anything new to the plate....

 

I didn't say nostalgia. I said growing up in the 90's. Nobody else is aware of how strongly Mario and Sonic are tied together because they grew up in the post-Sega console era, hence Sonic was nowhere near the level of Mario's popularity.
Not nostalgia, it's just that the two together holds little significance for those who weren't around for the Sega/Nintendo rivalry of yore.

I didn't say nostalgia. I said growing up in the 90's. Nobody else is aware of how strongly Mario and Sonic are tied together because they grew up in the post-Sega console era, hence Sonic was nowhere near the level of Mario's popularity.

Not nostalgia, it's just that the two together holds little significance for those who weren't around for the Sega/Nintendo rivalry of yore.

 



Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.