Switching discs isn't all that bad, unless the game is segmented into different discs and visiting previous areas requires a disc swap. That's annoying.

How does setting up your own line contradict my opinion? I never mentioned that until the post you just quoted which wasn't the post you questioned originally and doesn't contradict my opinion in any way shape or fashion. Not even a little forget about completely.

My opinion is DVD's are cheaper to make than BD. As stated many times.
When making each product it's cheaper whether outsourced or done internally to make DVD's than it is to make Blu-rays. The more sold the cheaper still.
Sure the more BD's made drives the cost down but that's only for BD's and also works the same way for DVD's.
All evidence shown so far backs me up that DVD's are cheaper to make than BDs.
And some publishers do manufacture their own disc. Nintendo for certain markets or SEGA. So doesn't that contradict your point?

Sorry, I may have trouble understanding you because your English grammar is rather confusing, but from the first post I quoted you in you stated that, "On a large scale producing BD will cost less but for smaller less well known games that aren't going to sell as well as Uncharted it will impact them more than making the game on DVD9." From that it makes it seem as if you are saying that only producing a large amount of copies of a game will make BD cheaper but if it's only a small amount of games than DVD will be cheaper. To me the only way that is possible is if you are factoring in fixed costs such as setting up a factory line to manufacture the BD's. Well if you knew that publishers don't have their own factories because they outsource the manufacturing to manufacturers, you would know that either BD or DVD would be cheaper regardless of how many copies a game sells because there is no fixed costs to set up a factory line since the manufacturer has already covered that. 

It doesn't matter that you think DVD is cheaper or if you thought that BD was cheaper to produce. The fact that you made a distinction based on how many copies would be sold shows that you are trying to factor in fixed costs that don't exist. 

Also Nintendo and Sega don't manufacture their own discs. You probably think Apple Manufactures their own computers too and that all McDonald restaurants are owned my McDonalds. Just because the name is on it doesn't mean they built it. Publishers/developers create the content of the game and put it on the disc and then they send it to a manufacturer and they make all the copies of the game. It wouldn't make sense for a publisher to have their own factories because one month they may need 5 million discs printed and then the next month they may only need 2 million. Then the next month they may need 10 million discs printed. How do you set up a factory for that that is run efficient? You can't. So they outsource it to manufacturers who can can juggle the demands of many different manufacturer's and therefore they can be much more efficient and reduce the average cost of making a DVD, BD, CD, etc. There may be exclusive manufacturer's that only print games from a certain publisher but that doesn't mean that the publisher owns the manufacturer. 

The only annoyance I get out of using multiple disk's is that when I want to play Lost Odyssey or Star Ocean, I have to install the game's to my 20 gig 360 hard drive because I can't stand the fan and I always get worried that it could over heat. Otherwise it's fine, I guess.

Did anyone think that having extra storage space makes for lazy development? Absolutely. If developers have the space then they are less likely to think about optimization.

Did anyone think that Sony developers will use the extra space ON PURPOSE, like having uncompressed audio and duplicate data for performace reasons, and to (in part) be able to justify the BR player and to try to one-up the 360 in the consumer's eyes? Absolutely! Is this necessary or required? NO.

Some extra features such as multi-language is a nice option but NOT necessary to most consumers. I have so, so many movies that are multi-language and I NEVER watch the movies using the second language tracks. So, for the most part there is little to no value to pad the games with such content.

Did anyone think that having more space often makes developers try and fill it with assets which take more time to develope which costs developers more to produce the games? Still to this day the DVD is about the size that holds the right number of assets and keeps development budgets in check.

With the exception of ONLY a handfull of games, and almost all of the 1st party, the hundreds of other games have NO requirement for large amounts of storage space at this point in time or possibly years into the future.

Now if I had two consoles from the same company, one with DVD and one with BR I'd choose the BR disk. Having said that, having multi-disk DVD or BR is not a significant enough reason itself to choose one console over another for a particular game. At this point, I would likely choose one version over another for more important reasons such as which console is my "primary console", do I want achievements vs trophies, or which console would be more convenient for the rest of my family to use it on?
ie. only one PS3 in my house yet every room has a 360 for gaming, media, TV, etc. Which console are my friends going to be playing the game on?
Does the BR offer content that makes any difference at all for my environment?
ie. I don't use or care about 7.1 surround sound and likely NEVER will. I only have 720p and/or 1080p quality is not noticable at all on my equipment so it makes NO difference.
Theoretically in a multi-console house with multi-disk DVD games I can have two consoles running the game at the same time (if offset by one disk) which would be a bonus for my kids rather than having to wait until I finish the game?

Think about this everyone.

Normally I wouldnt say that, but in your case ill say it anyway. Your post was one of the worst of all time.

All of that is negated by the fact that there are XBOX 360 games that are coming out soon or already came out that require multiple discs. 

IceEdge: I was thinking your response was way worse than my "ranting post" as you offered no detail, no counter argument, and no value to the post whatsoever.

I used that structure to provoke a response for which I got.

Reading into and between all the lines of what I wrote is the point that a very few games now and in the near future can or need take advantage of extra space that BR has to offer.  Just because one media has more space does not automatically mean that that is the better solution for the vast majority of the population.  The case will most definately be more valid 1 or 2 years down the road.  Until then extra space is not necessarily the deciding factor as to what media and platform to choose.

Normally I always explain my thinking, but im not loosing my time arguing with an alternate account who post bullshit to provoke a response (thanks for saying it).

What about the rest of us who want to know what you think is so bad about it? While I disagree with some of the points of it, they at least tried giving reasons to support what they think. If you disagree, say why, rather than calling the post out for being bad.

@Holesome: As you may have read, I did say I have some issues. You bring up multiple languages as a point. I personally have a preference for a language, as do you, apparently. However, what if they only put 1 language on, and it wasn't your preferred language? Space being used for more languages is a benefit- we can hear it (or read it) however we want to. As an anime fan, I've seen the dub vs sub wars, and that just boils down to language. The language isn't necessarily an excuse to play it again, rather, it exists to let you play it how you want to.

Space... I agree with you in that it leads to a lot of inefficiencies by merely having the space with no plans to use it. (Back in the cartridge day, that was a foolish thing to do.) And yes, most, if not all, games today do not need a full BR-50. If you really think that's not enough space for your game in today's tech, then you don't know how to program efficiently. (Though I think you agree with me on this.) Where I differ is the years later, and the DVD still being sufficient. HD resolutions, even compressed, take up a fair amount of space. A BD-25 or 2 DVD-9s should be sufficient in my eyes for most, if not all, games. I would prefer if things could stay on a single DVD-9, but technology is not permitting that.