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peachbuggy on 19 February 2010

Weird ending to the thread. Maybe you should do research before you post? Then you won't have a queue of people trying to prove you wrong.



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mhsillen on 19 February 2010
Snake612 said:
Viper1 said:
Snake612 said:
You guys obviously didn't read the title of thread carefully. I said the "best selling console." Not the best selling handheld. DS without a doubt will be the best selling handheld of all time but not the best selling console of all time because its not "A CONSOLE"! Do you understand?
Btw,Viper1, I know exactly what I'm talking about. My predictions on this site happen to be very accurate. For example, last year, I made a bet with SaviorX that the Wii would not hit 70 million copies by the end of 2009 and guess what? I was right. If you don't believe me, search SaviorX's name up on this site and ask him about it. I'm sure he remembers.

That holds no resanance with your current predictions which fall flat on their face against data, logic, reason, historical context, etc...

Quite literally everything about your prediction runs against the grains....all of it.    I'm not trying to offend you and aprt of me even feels bad for you because of the attacks you're going to endure.   But you've put yourself out there with data projections that just have no valid grounds to support them.

 

I see that your a Sony fan and every Sony fans wants their console to remain sales king.  And that's understandable.  But check the real data and apply unbiased logic and reason and you'll see that you've made some predictions that you won't be proud of.


1) I'm not a huge sony fan

2) I told you before that my predictions are very accurate. I could understand you not believing me now but maybe we should just wait until the end of this generation

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Kage848 on 19 February 2010
Snake612 said:
Chrizum said:
Snake612 said:
sguy78 said:
Seriously, you really think the Wii is going to have trouble beating 90-100 million?


I'm not saying there are going to have trouble getting to 100 million WW but what console in the history of gaming has sold 100 million more copies in the next two-three years. Its never been done before.

This is starting to annoy me. Numerous people asked you this, but you never respond. So once again:

What makes you think the Wii will stop selling after 2-3 years, whereas the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 all sold millions after their successors were released?

Dammit! I'm just gonna have to admit after looking at the Wii's sales, the Will will surpass the PS2. I knew PS2 would be surpassed but I didn't think that it would take on gen for that to happen. Damn.....sighs..................this thread is a EPIC FAIL! I hate this.

I have already stated that I do think the PS2 will be beat LTD by the Wii. But, again, no one knows whats going to happen. No one in there right mind saw the Wii comeing. It was like lightning out of a clear sky. Learn from history. If you really don't want your beloved PS2 to be outsold by the Wii then i sugest you never give up hope. Cause all the BS on this thread don't mean shit at the end of the day because no one knows for sure.

Never cease to believe!



TWRoO on 19 February 2010
Vanbierk said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Vanbierk said:
I don't count the DS in sales because it cheats, it releases a new (renamed) edition every year or every other year now it seems...What do we have now Nintendo DS, DS Lite, DSi, and DSi XL?

It cheats?

In my opinion, a console that changes the actual features to add more to the newest revisions, doesn't really count as the same console anymore...that's a new generation of that console, just like the PSP and PSP Go should not be lopped into the same category...But hey, that's only my personal opinion, Oh, and "learn something"

In my opinion, a console that breaks so much and requires millions of users to buy second ones (literally throwing out the old one, as opposed to perhaps giving the old DS model to a friend or sibling) shoudn't be counted.

To a point I do see where you are coming from, but there is no way of defining where we should stop..... GameBoy and GameBoy Color is one that I think is different enough to warrant being split as consoles... DS + DSlite versus DSi + DSiXL (IMO the lite, and XL are just updates, there are no changed features that affect games) is a little closer, the main difference being the downloadable games for DSi.... I think it does at least deserve a note.

Like I said though, where do we stop? each person will have a different opinion on the matter, some may thing GB+GBC should be a single console, some may go as far as saying the XB360 Arcade and the XB360 models with a HDD should be counted differntly.... or what about the old PS3 models able to play PS2 games.... that's a major gameplay feature that has been removed, should it be counted differently? (if it wasn't for the downloadable games for instance, the major gameplay difference between DS and DSi would be removing GBA support.... the same as PS3 with removed PS2 support)



forest-spirit on 19 February 2010

Ugh, the "handhelds aren't consoles" is such a bad excuse, I don't see the logic behind it at all...
There's a difference between stationary/home consoles and handheld/portable consoles, but both are consoles. I would even go as far as to say it's perfectly fine to compare handheld and home console markets, I mean, just take a look at Japan and you see what I mean.


Anyway, I guess the thread is about Wii vs PS2 and which of them will be the best selling home console. I bet it depends on Nintendo and how they will support the Wii over the next few years. If Nintendo continues to release system sellers, doesn't get overrun in the upcoming motion war and doesn't release a new home console within the next few years then I can see the Wii becoming the best selling home console. It will be close though.



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Arius Dion on 19 February 2010
Kage848 said:
Snake612 said:
Chrizum said:
Snake612 said:
sguy78 said:
Seriously, you really think the Wii is going to have trouble beating 90-100 million?


I'm not saying there are going to have trouble getting to 100 million WW but what console in the history of gaming has sold 100 million more copies in the next two-three years. Its never been done before.

This is starting to annoy me. Numerous people asked you this, but you never respond. So once again:

What makes you think the Wii will stop selling after 2-3 years, whereas the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 all sold millions after their successors were released?

Dammit! I'm just gonna have to admit after looking at the Wii's sales, the Will will surpass the PS2. I knew PS2 would be surpassed but I didn't think that it would take on gen for that to happen. Damn.....sighs..................this thread is a EPIC FAIL! I hate this.

I have already stated that I do think the PS2 will be beat LTD by the Wii. But, again, no one knows whats going to happen. No one in there right mind saw the Wii comeing. It was like lightning out of a clear sky. Learn from history. If you really don't want your beloved PS2 to be outsold by the Wii then i sugest you never give up hope. Cause all the BS on this thread don't mean shit at the end of the day because no one knows for sure.

Never cease to believe!

A fella by the name of Sean Malstrom had foresight to predict the Wii's phenomenal success. The majority of the Industry folks and analysts did not. I mean we had that Gamespot April Fools Joke LoL.

I'd imagine people would want the Wii to sell more than the PS2 it would every gen the market leader sold more than the last which points to growth..Though there are other things that point to decline even in the face of seeming growth. It is really growth if all you are doing is selling your prodcut in more countries? I don't know. But that's a topic for a different thread.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Kage848 on 19 February 2010
Arius Dion said:
Kage848 said:
Snake612 said:
Chrizum said:
Snake612 said:
sguy78 said:
Seriously, you really think the Wii is going to have trouble beating 90-100 million?


I'm not saying there are going to have trouble getting to 100 million WW but what console in the history of gaming has sold 100 million more copies in the next two-three years. Its never been done before.

This is starting to annoy me. Numerous people asked you this, but you never respond. So once again:

What makes you think the Wii will stop selling after 2-3 years, whereas the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 all sold millions after their successors were released?

Dammit! I'm just gonna have to admit after looking at the Wii's sales, the Will will surpass the PS2. I knew PS2 would be surpassed but I didn't think that it would take on gen for that to happen. Damn.....sighs..................this thread is a EPIC FAIL! I hate this.

I have already stated that I do think the PS2 will be beat LTD by the Wii. But, again, no one knows whats going to happen. No one in there right mind saw the Wii comeing. It was like lightning out of a clear sky. Learn from history. If you really don't want your beloved PS2 to be outsold by the Wii then i sugest you never give up hope. Cause all the BS on this thread don't mean shit at the end of the day because no one knows for sure.

Never cease to believe!

A fella by the name of Sean Malstrom had foresight to predict the Wii's phenomenal success. The majority of the Industry folks and analysts did not. I mean we had that Gamespot April Fools Joke LoL.

I'd imagine people would want the Wii to sell more than the PS2 it would every gen the market leader sold more than the last which points to growth..Though there are other things that point to decline even in the face of seeming growth. It is really growth if all you are doing is selling your prodcut in more countries? I don't know. But that's a topic for a different thread.

Yea ok ONE person did see it coming. That was an EPIC prediction too.

As for systems selling more every gen and growth and all yea i agree. But the fanboy in me wants to see the Wii outsell the PS2 and then the Wii2 outsell the Wii and so on lol.

Sony and MS have there place in my book. And thats pressing Nintendo to get better and better, and not get lazy. They wanted to play it safe and got a little lazy with the N64 and they paid the price. Anyways horribly OT but there it is.



Cheebee on 19 February 2010

Lol @ PS2 selling 160 million by 2011. XD



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SaviorX on 19 February 2010
Snake612 said:
Chrizum said:
Snake612 said:
sguy78 said:
Seriously, you really think the Wii is going to have trouble beating 90-100 million?


I'm not saying there are going to have trouble getting to 100 million WW but what console in the history of gaming has sold 100 million more copies in the next two-three years. Its never been done before.

This is starting to annoy me. Numerous people asked you this, but you never respond. So once again:

What makes you think the Wii will stop selling after 2-3 years, whereas the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 all sold millions after their successors were released?

Dammit! I'm just gonna have to admit after looking at the Wii's sales, the Will will surpass the PS2. I knew PS2 would be surpassed but I didn't think that it would take on gen for that to happen. Damn.....sighs..................this thread is a EPIC FAIL! I hate this.

I honestly don't think you should ever make another thread again.



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killeryoshis on 19 February 2010

I agree it won't outsell it by the time next gen starts. Though it will outsell it in the long run

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2 2006 Wii Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million 2.9 million

2001 PS2 2007 Wii Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million 15.8 million

2002 PS2 2008 Wii Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million 27.3 million

2003 PS2 2009 Wii Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million 20.9 million

2004 PS2 2010 Wii Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million 20 million(estimate)

2005 2011 Wii Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2 2012 Wii Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million 17 million (estimate)

2007 PS2 2013 Wii Lead Wii 23.1 million
10 million 14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2 2014 Wii Lead Wii 22.1 million
8 million 7 million (estimate)

2009 PS2 2015 Wii Lead Wii 21.1 million
4 million 3 million (estimate



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